Lords of Death Forums Lords of Death Forums LoD General Discussion It's just a matter of time, it's going to happen.

Sure that can happen. But as Joe Public, does it matter what procedures the Goverment and Air regultors are going to take to stop the threat.
Why not keep mum , do some new tactics and if the pyschos try to kill a plane full of Americans use them, as I state just seems all i hear in the US nowadays is fear tactics.

Anyone smell beaver shit?
Mujahedeen, you live in Canada and eat your Ham and Molasses. Have you recently had any 747's run into any big buildings, or go after the CIA's main building (The Pentagon), in your country it would be The Royal Mounted police Head Quarters.
As a democracy the United states honestly will always be more vulnerable to terrorist attacks. But for you to say we are being paranoid about putting Marshals in the air, or analyzing what terrorists are doing to uncover who our marshals are, then you are a jackass. You are the type of guy to say, omfg you could have prevented this terrorist attack if Bush would have listened to the CIA. On the other hand you say we are being paranoid.
Mujahedeen, if you can honestly say, that we shouldnt be a bit paranoid after a hand full of terrorist tried to run several 747's into some of our major buildings. You are fucking blind. You are now /muted.

I agree with you on the racial profiling issue.
We haven't had many terrorists who are born-bred Belgian, English, German, Austrian, Hungarian, Danish or Norwegian (etc...) lately. The terrorists seem to have some common aspects (which we can profile). Hate to say it, hate to offend anyone, but it's true. When you say "muslim extremist", you don't think baptist priests wearing suicide bomber belts, or catholic hijackers.
I know the whole civil liberties issue, and understand it's position, but for preparedness at least hand a list of profiled people to the onboard air marshall(s) & pilot(s) without showing anyone else. That way nobody's civil liberties are violated etc...etc.... and he'll know what seats have a higher % risk factor.
A concern would be the expansion of terrorist groups to non-muslims (which is underway). They are finding that they can recruit disgruntled and disenfranchised individuals who avoid the profiles. I read about that last week, and it adds a whole new dynamic.

Canada has had terrorism within the country since the 60's & 70's. Not on such a massive scale as 9/11, but they've had to deal with it for quite some time. They have had an anti-terrorist squad for many years.
I think a lot of the public in Canada feels a sense of "they won't come after us". I think that will change rapidly as the Winter Olympics in Vancouver will show. Security will be unbelievable, and the assholes will look towards the olympics as a "splashy thing to destroy".
A Lot of Canadians have forgotten, or are too young to remember the terrorism in the 70's, gunned down diplomats in Ottawa etc... they had some shit going on back then.

The FLQ , that wanted independance for Quebec.

REal threat helper

Also the Kurdish assasinations

Terrorism. Taking over Planes doesnt really scare me into feeling I can't leave my home everyday. Maybe the terrorists are stupid fuks. What terrifies me, is holding my kid hostage at school. Blowing up stores or places where people amass in rural america. Setting fires to our forests. Bombing small communities. Want chaos? Create a virus that spreads thru cell phones ( I hear it's already being done). The list goes on. It is only a matter of time. Hope we can stop them hard.

There are many ways to do that kind of shit, and I agree that mass chaos can be created quite easily. It was done on the west coast about 8 years ago and was "explained" away so it didn't get into the public eye how to do it. The potential chaos was extremely bad for 72 hrs.
Fortunately the media & public took the bait and it didn't cause panic.
Numerous terrorist organizations have been trying to get material from renaissance island, and unfortunately if they succeed, all of us (globally) are in danger. The dangers that lurk there are phenominal, and there is no real protection on it.

Hey all I work for an airline so a little insight (Flight Attendant). The airlines have been probed ever since 9/11 and it has rarely stopped. My airline was not among the ones involved but we were used quite often by them to get back and forth. We probably were the ones that got them to Washington D.C the day before. Anyways personally i've seen it myself and even had to be interviewed by the FBI. Person gets on board sits down and acts like thier on vacation. Gets out video recorder and films outside of plane (normal). During flight moves to seat in back and films a little of cabin (not normal). Twenty minutes before landing gets up when he thinks flight crew isn't watching and goes down isle filming the cabin and takes now a third and different seat (NOT NORMAL!). Sadly this happens, be it your local rednecks looking for a good time or your tan friends from the mideast trying to join the mile high bomb club. Its a reality nowadays.
Does this mean flying isn't safe? Hell no! Almost every flight now has an armed person. Here's a small list...
FAM- Also what I call MiB's (Men in Baggies) These are your tax dollars at work. There job to protect the cockpit door and only the door. So as a flight attendant im just cannon fodder*cry*.
LEO- Law inforcement going to work or vacation. Most of them come armed nowadays.
Pilots- Yes now some of them are armed.
Also the procedures have drastically changed. Here's another small list.... (okay little long)
1) Cockpit doors use to be breakable. Before 9/11 you could go to a cockpit door, kick, and break one of three pieces off. Reason for this was in case of a fire or crash the pilots could still get out. Now the doors are amour plated to the teeth. Can you say going down with the ship? <img src="/~stretch/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
2) Flight attendant crews and passenges stay calm and passive. Ahhh the good ole days where someone would hi-jack a plane to free friends or visit Disneyland (Disneyland hi-jack happen to us in the early 90's <img src="/~stretch/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> ) Today people attack and don't ask questions. Want to stand by the cockpit and yell I can fly this plane better ? Most likely you won't live, five years ago people would have sat and watched. Hell even your flight crew could have approached you and asked how they could help. Now we grab a coffee pot and burn the skin off your body real slow like.
Now someone mentioned gas grenades, we got something better called gravity. So lets say someone tries to hi-jack. They stand up and attack flight attendants. Maybe everyone stays seated and they kill a few of us telling one of the flight attendants thats still alive to make the pilots open the door. So he/she calls them and places in a secret work. Now most likely its going to get ugly. Plane will likely drop immediately from 40,000 ft to 15,000 quickly throwing those not seatbelted into the the ceiling, most likely killing them.