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Mofo Fly]Flea I seriously doubt our politics are polor opposite & if we did sit down at a table we would agree 100% on it..

... In my heart of hearts if there were a way to be absolutely done with all fire arm related incident under some sort of "100% gun control policy" that would be something I could go for..

Problem is you simply cannot stop humans ability for 'crazy' ~ Trance the reason why the 'drug ban' is the same arguement is if you do a 'gun ban' or how about an 'alcohol ban' etc. how well does that work? Lets not be stupid T.. you were using 'banned' substances in high school & possibly middle school you are that retarded.. so go ahead & 'ban guns' but crazy will still get em while good, smart people that could stop crazy in its tracks will not be as equiped.

So if you cannot stop other humans from.. well being other humans.. I am for a different kind of "100% gun control policy" in which instead of regulating the thing we actually actively foster the process. Teach & provide every American the proper education that goes into fire arms & their use.. & while you are at it teach people how to drive. This is the same arguement as guns.

If everyone of those teachers on that campus that day was not only armed with their own NON AUTOMATIC FIRE ARM & 4 YEARS OF 'BASIC' G.I. (GOV. ISSUE) FIREARMS TRAINING.. Than that CRAZY MOTHER FUCKER that took out over 20 would have been done by the time he fired off his 2nd round. Thats a fact you couldnt despute with me.

Tell me with the billions spent on car accidents, insurance, etc. that if we put every kid of the next generation into 4~ years of extensive driving training before they are even allowed to hit the public roads it wouldnt have an effect on your bullshit statistics you like to use in arguements? $2donuts it would make a huge difference if everyone had a proper education on how to not drive like a fucking retard.

If humans were ants & could actually work at getting shit done we really can do some amazing shit.. humans dont want to actually work at getting shit done though & as we all know if you give government the control of any system its going to be fuct.

*edit; Yes my child is 12.. unlike Sui & I she will not own her first rifle/firearm at 12 but she definately knows what, how, why, etc. when it comes to fire arms. She is definately zombie apoc ready & she knows to shoot people like you in the dick Trance..


Are you insinuating that ALL people should be forced to attend a gun safety class whether or not they intend to buy a gun? It seems so by your vehicle safety analogy.

A safety class or education can resolve gun "accidents" but it cannot prevent psychopaths from mass murders. The "War on Drugs" is an utter failure, as would a "War on Guns" be.

This is rather a simple debate, this is not about hunting, self defense in your home, deterrence or the enjoyment of gun ownership. The Constitution is a document that gives us the ability to protect ourselves against our GOVERNMENT. If the government wants to ban guns they need to amend the 2nd amendment. Article V of the constitution is the vehicle to change our rights.

It is that simple. No law trumps the constitution as bad as our current and past legislative and executive branches have circumvented it, Republican and Democrat alike.

Until philosophers become politicians or politicians govern from philosophy humanity and governments will suffer under the compromise of political winds, advice of special interest and lobbyists.

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In Wake Of Tragedy, Americans Demand Reform Of Everything, Anything

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I dont think ive ever disagreed with anything Sam Harris has written. Wall of text warning though

http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/the-riddle-of-the-gun

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Nasty]I dont think ive ever disagreed with anything Sam Harris has written. Wall of text warning though

http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/the-riddle-of-the-gun


This is a good article. I mostly like the "2.According to one source cited by Goldberg, concealed-carry permit holders not only commit fewer crimes than members of the general public—they commit fewer crimes than police officers." because I do hold a permit and I carry on a daily basis.


Here is an artcle from the town I live in.

http://www.examiner.com/article/home-alone-12-year-old-oklahoma-girl-shoots-intruder-with-mom-s-gun

As a community we are all very proud of her. Notice that she called 911, but they were no where close at the time that she was forced to squeeze off a round. There are tons of stories like that from my area. Most people live pretty far from any emergency response teams. I applaud the mother for teaching her daughter how to responsibly use the weapon. Gun education is invaluable for all americans in my opinion. Too many people have no understanding of the weapons they are demanding regulation of.

Also, what bothers me about the media is that had she been raped non-stop it would have been a bigger story.

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