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Is he gonna swim over the ocean in a rubber raft with canisters of mustard gas? The big threat is not rogue states, we know where they live, we have their address and we know their kids. Khadaffi proved that yrs ago.
The threat is random fucktards with deluded religious ideals (ie: Osama...remember him? He attacked us, not saddam). Those are the fuckwads we need to take out. The 100 Bil we've spend fucking around in Iraq could have taken out soooooooo many real terrorists it's insane.
Sadaaam is a fuckwad, no doubt. He's a bad man. He's naughty. He builds palaces. He's naughty.
If we wanted him out, the Mossad offered to take him out, and we declined. And if anyone could have taken him out, it's the Mossad.
We're not there for terrorists (or we'ld be elsewhere first), we're not there for human rights(or we'ld be elsewhere first), we're not there for WMD (we got lied to on that one), we're not there because the holiday inn has a nice swimming pool (it don't).
I hate to see our people get killed, I hate to see people who hate us have us on their doorstep. I think the whole thing is utter bullshit, and I hate to see people still buy into it when the magic 8-ball says "No,you've been duped" over and over.




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And you present your posts well without attacking the person you're talking to, that's a nice change on this forum. Good points and good debate so far but I think we simply disagree on a couple things. I think we did the right thing overall in the long term although ppl only want to focus on the short term and complain as a way to get political gain. I support our troops though either way, anyone living here in this country should.

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we gave sadam an ultimatum, he declined to comply with the terms of it, so we invaded


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In Toronto that first pic was the front page of our Toronto main newspaper.. a couple days ago
Its actually weird cuz I thought that would be all over US papers?

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I get my info from the following (generally, but not limited to):
Domestic (NYT,CNN,WP etc...)
BBC
Nando Times
IHT
GU
REU
UPI
SA
TOI
There is a LOT of things that you will not see if you source your information from one local (ie: EU or domestic). If you do not source and triangulate info, you are not seeing a clearer picture.
IE: right now, with the FBI info pre 9/11, it was reported in 3 foriegn sources and corroborated 24 to 48 hrs prior to WP smelling fresh meat and posting it (followed by NYT). They just jumped on the bandwagon approx 8 hrs after Xin brought it up.
If you don't read globally, then you are in the dark, period. I've worked in the newswire industry about 10 yrs ago, you'ld be amazed at what you miss if you only read one local or one viewpoint.
Although it can be comforting to read the things you want to hear, the truth is not always as nice and cuddly / comfy. If you need "feel good", stick to domestic fare. They'll tell ya what you want to hear.
"he who owns the media, owns the people" (common saying during communism, in communist countries)




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I think that sadaam going to the big house is a good thing.
I think that spending 100 bil to do it is a bad thing.
I think 100 bil could have been better spent elsewhere (technology for detection, wacking Osama, good porn etc...).
i agree that the current politics soil any true unbiased view of the situation. I think the months ahead will spawn much more rhetoric in Wash DC, and a lot more ugliness on all the subjects on the table.
I just wish Saddam died of VD 3 yrs ago and Osama was cought on film sucking dog cocks so he would not have so many followers.
I'ld like to see Osama's head, on a spike on the 66 turn, right before you go over the bridge to DC with a spotlight on it. That's the fuck I want to see cought.




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the high price of oil has nothing to do with the invasion...
Ive read both arguments and i am finding sympathetic leanings towards each. I am a full blooded republican, but i am having issues with the invasion based on the sole reason of "weapons of mass destruction". I think i would have felt much better behind the whole case if the Bush team would have just said "He could have weaps, he could have gas, but he is just big zit that needs to be popped" and i would have been behind it 100%.


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I didnt even bother reading much into your post arioch, forgive me. I was heading out to the Auto Salon at the L.A Convention center and just wanted to throw in no matter what the issue, topic, reason, coincidences or circumstances are nobody, no BODY, corpse, or persons remains should be mudilated in which our soldiers were. If we werent so politically fucking correct nothing would be happening to our soldiers over there or anywhere because we wouldnt have our top military advisers/generals hand cuffed because people are too pussy to throw the wrecking ball into effect. Instead we have so called expendable lives because people in our country are basically vaginas. I dont care what the circumstances are, killing someone is one thing. That shit is just plain out inhuman. I personally would like to bb-q some fucking sand niggers now.
(PS.. I know we were misled and all that bullshit... I think bush is a jew and moronic religious nutcase)

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