Lords of Death Forums Lords of Death Forums LoD General Discussion The pictures you didn't see on the news...

"Roby *Kal Vas Flam* Your right, we shouldnt be at war, nor should we have a military because all they do is rape the foreign women. Hence this statement "The US is spreading freedom". Wasnt that Platoon? Wait no i think the movie was Hamburger hill? Apocolypse now? hehe roby you watch too many movies bro. Trust me, now a days this stuff is very prohibited in our military. This shit rarely happens. Trust me the media films these events on a regular basis, the military cant fart without it being on TV. hehe im just fuqin with ya =)"
Yer right I do watch to many moves, but this shit still goes down, the few people I knew from my HS that went into the military have told me some fucked up stories via e-mail. I wasn't saying anyone was right or wrong, I was just saying there is often more to it than all the newspapers/internet are displaying. They didn't tell me anything about this particular incident or anything, just some things they have seen/done themselves. Maby they were entierly innocent driving around delivering cookies and milk to Iraqi grandmas across the country....I dunno, but neither do you. <img src="/~stretch/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

You'd still want to just run and be a coward huh? Why not just go tell the families of the troops who already died that they died for no reason? Because that's the only message that would be sent to those people if we leave. If I was to fight over there then die, there's no way in hell I'd want to have died for no reason what so ever by us just "running". What would even be worser would be how my family felt if we just pulled out. That would have to the most stupidest tactic someone could possibly pull in a situation like that according to me.
We've disarmed them. We have captured Saddam. We've also killed his sons. They wont be coming back whatever happens. We've had plenty of success disarming the older government of Iraq yeah... But why would you just want to pull out and leave? If we just leave multiple countries with worser hatred for us would just take power. I sure as hell don't want that to happen, or should anybody want it.
So these are the sceenarios. The first option would be the cowards way out, and just pack up and leave. The second option would be to stay, and continueing killing extremists that's in Iraq now. Also destroying whatever left over Saddam loyalists that's still left. Which would be a great cause for our people who has already died. The only way to fight terror is to use force/war. The only thing that comes from war is deaths/loss/victory. You know we can't lose... The only way we could lose a war is by people like you flee. People who would rather run from a fight then fight it. If you run you'll eventually have to fight regardless. All running does is buy time nothing more.

No you belligerent American. American presence in the middle east is no longer essential. Look at the list you produced of accomplishments in there. Anyone who dies now is dying for no reason. The conquest in Afghanistan is justified, deposing Sadam Hussein and killing his counterparts and family was justified. Now we should leave.

You don't conquer an entire nation by peacefully driving around. Imagine how many arabs were slaughtered on the road to baghdad. True they may dislike Hussein, but you can guarantee they will despise Americans for murdering their friends and family. It's get the fuck out time.

That's your opinion, even though you're wrong it still is I suppose. The only way terrorists will ever be purged is if we only stay and fight. You don't understand the concepts avidently. You think we should leave so that 2-3 more Islamic countries can form though civil war. You avidently don't think about the terrorists that will be produced from something like that. Every islamic extremist country should be purged it's quite simple as that. You can be all the coward you want. All you see is the current situation in saving U.S lives not the long term situation. You avidently wont see that though, because Bush is smart enough not to be coward unlike you.
You think the U.N will keep Iraq stable if we left? That's a fucking joke son. The U.N showed how structual it was a year ago towards Iraq. They're just like the democrats all talk no action. They make threats that they dont follow up on if denied nothing more. Saddam was given specific order's. Disarm or be disarmed. He took it as a bluff just like the previous bluff's in the past. He soon realized how screwed he was when Bush showed him that he isn't just talk compared to the democrats and the U.N.
Like I've stated over and over just because we wiped out the old government in Iraq it doesn't mean it's going to be all good now. We have to make sure another Iran doesn't form. It's essential and you need to get that through your thick head. You avidently seem like you dont care if something worse forms then what was previously there before. Please do correct me if I'm wrong about that statement, because that's what you're stating by wanting to leave nothing more. You don't mind if another islamic state forms to produce more terrorists to kill more U.S citizens and allies right? Perhaps if you thoguht the process through better you might grasp that concept maybe? Apparently all you see is the short term effect, and who know's when you'll eventually realize the long term effect. Possibly not ever unless it happened huh.

Anyone who dies now is for no reason? That is rather laughable son. Any U.S soldier who dies from now on is contributing to the end of Islamic extremists. If I was there I'd be glad to wipe out every one of those islamic extremist peice of shit's. On the other hand you'd run like the coward you are, and let someone else fight your battles then critize the actions. You're the type of U.S citizen that's a disgrace to this country. A typical coward just like a democrat. Stop thinking short term like one, and think long term for once son. You might actually realize how ridiculous you're really are. Sadly I was practical like you year's back, until I opened my eye's seeing the truth. Someday you might possibly too who know's, but it's prolly unlikely from what I've seen out of you so far.

Are you trying to say we were killing innocents? Thats a load of bullshit. Can you even recall how iraqi troops were dressing up like civilians because they knew the US wouldn't attack them?
I seem to recall some US soliders getting killed by cowards pretending to be just civilians.

itll be vietnam all over again

No... You're wrong about that. You can't compare the two. If we had the technology we have today then, that whole situation would ended up being entirely different. Also the cold war played a big role during Vietnam. Which is obviously not going on now...

how we kept south vietnam safe (somewhat) then after we left it got taken over anyway