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#142340 04/06/04 10:09 PM
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Tech weaps have nothing to do with surpressing masses that conspire against you. It is quickly over the past week turning into Vietnam, only been a year. It took 4 years of having the french in Vietnam for it to truly get really bad. Just you wait, pull out it will not be Vietnam, it will be total chaos in Middle East = WW 3, which I think it is anyways.


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You'd still want to just run and be a coward huh? Why not just go tell the families of the troops who already died that they died for no reason? Because that's the only message that would be sent to those people if we leave. If I was to fight over there then die, there's no way in hell I'd want to have died for no reason what so ever by us just "running". What would even be worser would be how my family felt if we just pulled out. That would have to the most stupidest tactic someone could possibly pull in a situation like that according to me.

For no reason? Wasnt the reason to oust Sadam, find the WMD and free Iraq. Done all of em really, you just have not put in place the goverment you want. Stil getting out is probably not a good idea, you stirred up a hornets nest, you take the sting.


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I think you still believe those in charge of the invasion had a post-war plan. They never did.

Someone did, and alot of these people here ae in the US Goverment. http://www.newamericancentury.org/


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Anyone who dies now is for no reason? That is rather laughable son. Any U.S soldier who dies from now on is contributing to the end of Islamic extremists. If I was there I'd be glad to wipe out every one of those islamic extremist peice of shit's. On the other hand you'd run like the coward you are, and let someone else fight your battles then critize the actions. You're the type of U.S citizen that's a disgrace to this country. A typical coward just like a democrat. Stop thinking short term like one, and think long term for once son. You might actually realize how ridiculous you're really are. Sadly I was practical like you year's back, until I opened my eye's seeing the truth. Someday you might possibly too who know's, but it's prolly unlikely from what I've seen out of you so far.

Only coward I see is a man so full of hate.. islamic extremist right, I guess your a Xian extremist. Just listen to yourself.. I'd gladly kill them ect. Will seems they feel the same way. Its when all talk of gladly killing or its the others who are the freaks and evil talk is put aside that Americans and Iraqi's and the rest of us can feel at ease, or least stop killing each other.

Only democrats are cowards, wow their is an itelligent attack. I guess the army only drafts republicans. Didnt Bush skip out of service ?


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lol WW3 I think not...

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First of all don't start up that stupid "Bush service" bs. That's got to be the most stupidest thing possible. It isn't relevant to nothing. Bush know's how to fight when you need to fight, unlike the democrats. Which if it was Clinton/Gore/Kerry any of those pussy democrats they'd not have done anything after 9/11. Absolutly nothing...
"Only coward I see is full of hate..." That make's me a coward, because I hate every one of those pieces of Islamic extremist shits? You have to be fucking insane son. There's no way in hell I'd back down and submit to those pile's of puss bag's of shit. Unlike your point of view that is... You'd back out in a heart beat apparently. You obviously don't know the meaning of "coward" very well...
My comments about "I'd be gladly to kill them ect"... Wow, of course they feel the same way about me. Allah told them to kill me, because I'm from a country that support's a country that occupies the "holy land". Why would I be glad to kill them? They killed 1,000's of "INNOCENT" citizens/U.S soldiers. If you think that's the same reasoning as them you're totally fucking insane son...
You're obviously still in the land of carebears. Where the sun shine's, rainbows fill the skies, and "everybody" care's about the other person. Thinking like that towards everyone of those peice's of shit Islamic extremists is why 6,000 died on 9/11. The democrats did "NOTHING" to stop them. They tryed dealing with the matter like it was a diplomatic issue. When you can't possibly deal with the issue like that... Bush recongnized this, and his policies on dealing with it has succeed a "BILLION" time's farther then the democrats could have ever do.
I can't think of one democrat that's not been a coward. Democrats can't handle international policies at all. Clinton proved that point countless time's. You know as good as I do that if a democrat was in office during 9/11 nothing would have happened period to retaliate.
I actually didn't want Bush for office at first. I didn't go hardcore republican until I seen how he dealt with the matter's. I also didn't think to highly of politics in general until then. I actually could care less... His father wasn't a coward, or is he when it come's to war. I despise practically every democrat now after seeing how they run their policies. It's a complete fucking joke.

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btw are you serious. You think our technology would not have effected the Vietnam war? Were in a fucking desert wasteland here. This isn't a jungle warfare enviroment like it was in Vietnam. The only major reason Vietnam won was do to their tunnel systems. If it wasn't for that they'd been wiped out instantly. You cannot compare the two at all. We lost 1,000's of troops during Vietnam.
You say that it's been turning into Vietnam in the last few day's? We've been fighting guierilla warfare in Iraq since the first day we attacked... I recall a statement from one of the Bauth party remiments on the new's about a month ago... "Were losing the war we need as much help as possible. We need a lot more terrorists to help us out. We need to turn this into a holy war so more terrorists do come to drive the americans out." or something or the other. I forget if it was on a document or some other sort of intel. If you think were losing you're insane... Were so far ahead it's popostrous. The only way we'd be defeated is for everyone to go by your value's of being a coward. I'd be glad to be able to fight in this war. If I would make hell of a lot more money then if I would from college I'd be over there in an instant... I despise people like you who would rather run and hide. It's laughable and rather sickening.
What masses are conspiring against us? Iraq's population might out number us, but not every Iraqi is against us. There's actually a big proportion of them who are thankful. You act as if were fighting a war that's already lost... The only loss we've ever had is the loss that we should have done it a lot earlier...

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Well there was one Democrat. Id refer you to Cuban missle crisis in the early 60s. Kennedy backed the Soviets down with a naval blockade of Cuba, otherwise we would have been staring down a few dozen silos every time we did a fly by. Other than that, I tend to agree with you. This isnt the time to pull out, otherwise we've wasted our efforts. The mission is NOT accomplished yet.
You guys might want to stop and consider the fact that it isnt just Iraquis we're dealing with over there. We're also dealing with every extremist that has an axe to grind (or think he does) with the US. The borders are wide open so right now its a free-for-all. You're seeing Iranian influences trying to take hold, Yemenis, Saudis, Syrians, etc all coming to take a shot at us. Top that off with the fact that these uneducated cant think for themselves robots are being controlled by their religious leaders who, if they are against us, will encourage their flock to off themselves in the name of their diety. Its a nasty situation. However to run now would be a big mistake and I tend to agree with Faust that if we did, well, all those soldiers and civilians we lost so far would be in vain. We need to stay long enough to ensure that the country will be run by some form of democracy instead of another religious zealot or a dictator waiting in the wings. If that happens, we're either right back where we started..or worse off than before.
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Coward this coward that. Wait and see. June 30th is handover date. With everyone focused on Iraqi Isreal has been blowing away Palestine people left and right and next up is their leader mr arafat. wait til that hits. iran is a muslim country that once the muslim get in will think alike, i am sure they will start shit if the us tries to use iraq as a new Middle East power base. this is the start. as for no tunnels, well houses and huge urab areas are just as good, and with more countries and areas around it full of supporters outside of the US power area sir, i believe the US and Mutli-national [ polish/brit/italian ] forces are in for a world of hurt over the next 2-3 years. Years indeed. Also if you love freedom so much and think that iraq and these people are such a threat, put away your im in college and need money ideology and goto war for your ideas. otherwise you have no right to call us or anyone a coward for their views, you've just as bad.


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You're obviously still in the land of carebears. Where the sun shine's, rainbows fill the skies, and "everybody" care's about the other person. Thinking like that towards everyone of those peice's of shit Islamic extremists is why 6,000 died on 9/11. The democrats did "NOTHING" to stop them. They tryed dealing with the matter like it was a diplomatic issue. When you can't possibly deal with the issue like that... Bush recongnized this, and his policies on dealing with it has succeed a "BILLION" time's farther then the democrats could have ever do.
I can't think of one democrat that's not been a coward. Democrats can't handle international policies at all. Clinton proved that point countless time's. You know as good as I do that if a democrat was in office during 9/11 nothing would have happened period to retaliate.
I actually didn't want Bush for office at first. I didn't go hardcore republican until I seen how he dealt with the matter's. I also didn't think to highly of politics in general until then. I actually could care less... His father wasn't a coward, or is he when it come's to war. I despise practically every democrat now after seeing how they run their policies. It's a complete fucking joke.

9/11 didnt happen during with a democratic president did it ? Many of the people in charge have been in posts for 10 of years over various goverments, so who cares whos in office that way, its the prinicple that a rich child of a rich family can get ou of his duty with money or powerful friends. I dont like it since i am poor and would never be able to do that.


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