Lords of Death Forums Lords of Death Forums LoD General Discussion Disrespecting our soldiers and Pat Tillman.

Youre right. It isnt any different. He is a face and a name representing GREAT Americans. Regaurdless of what this war is about, he wanted revenge for 911, thats why he went. He gave up money which nobody in todays age will do to go fight a war. He is a great example and a face to be recognized as a great football player, great soldier, and a great American. Most people are thinking about this hero thing the wrong way. He wasnt a "war" hero. He is an american hero. This incident and the cirucumstances involved (things he gave up) to fight for what he beleived in (killing mother fuckers for 9/11) should send a chill down your spine. If it doesnt your not seeing what his story is about. You think Barry nigger bonds would go to war? I dont think so. Neither would Payton Manning or anyone for that matter.
Best way to describe pat is "Role Model"

I just can't comprehend how you can call someone brainwashed when you're just another nationalistic flag waver. Remember that week long TV ORDEAL with Jessica Lynch? Is that not the paradigm of propaganda? It's all a bunch of patriotic nonsense.

I don't think death is honorable at all. I think it's foolish to go around wasting life. Maybe it's because I'm an atheist and don't believe in heaven, but I dunno...I don't think soldiers are even necessarily dying for our way of life and freedom anymore. Vietnam for example, was not about freedom, but since it was against communism I guess it could be our way of life. Unless some planet of the apes shit goes down, I don't think we're fighting for freedom, we're just fighting to oppress others and force our values on them. The middle easterns hate us for a reason. Americans don't understand why, just that relegation is a bitch.

Flee, My second post was really all about name calling. Had no real good points in it. I just felt like slaming him. When i say brainwashed i mean, palestinians suicide bombing to kill other innocent people. 80% of israelis that die from these suicide bombings are noncombatants. If palestinians would throw down their weapons tomorrow, there wouldnt be a single death over there. My point is that Majuhedeen is obviously brainwashed or ignorant to make some of the comments he does.

Of course you dont think death is honorable. North and the south fought to abololish slavery, many died. Many had to die to fight for the equal rights we have today. Sure this isnt a perfect country but when soldiers die, its for our country. And you sure as hell better realize that. You said " We are fighting to oppress others and force values upon them" meaning the middle easterners. wtf? I would be glad to pull out all of our aid, troops, money, and close up our borders. But there would be udder chaos in many other countries. North Korea would invade the South, the Middle east would smoke Israel. Middle easterns hate us for a reason? Because we are trying to change there midevil age way of life. You think its fair that middle eastern men oppress the women? You think they enjoy this? Is that worth fighting for? I think the US is the most generous country. We are the only ones that want to share democracy, why? BECAUSE it works.
Once again you said, you dont think death is honorable. Its foolish to go around wasting life. Lets sit back and watch them run planes into our buildings. Are those lives that were lost worth fighting for? yes! Now what are we doing in Iraq? WMD's, no LoL. preempt attack? No? What are you kidding, the same people that bitch about how the 9/11 attack should have been prevented dont want us in Iraq. Arent we preventing maybe a further attack by being in iraq? i think so, whether or not they are an example, i think the other middle easterners think that we now have the balls to go into any country. They will think twice when allowing terrorists to train in there country. And that my friends is what we are doing in Iraq ,right or wrong, they are an example to the rest of the middle eastern countries. I think being in Iraq will honestly prevent terror Cells from gaining power and the taliban to grow. Why? Because no country wants the US to knock at there door with troops and planes. We need to make this example so the US can be a safer, free place.

If you don't like it here, you have no idea how good you have it dude, you're so god damn spoiled because of ppl like Tillman who have died for your naievity of thinking they aren't doing shit. Move out of the US or stfu and recognize your privledge of living here.

The liberals have definitely taken over your thoughts and turned you into a fucking moron. You have no idea how good you have it, no fucking idea. People like you deserve 1 of 2 things, to die or to be deported you america hating communist clueless liberal.

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I'ld have to say we're all pretty much in agreement he/she is no conservative! I don't think I would classify him as anything other than a "fucktard". The use of "conservative" and "liberal" as wastebaskets to lump undesirables is all too convenient, shortly followed by a mass generalization of the group.
It's like Panemon, he hates his country (the USA), he hates everyone in it, sells illegal drugs to 13 year old kids, hates the president, hates his parents, hates everything. There is no way you could even think of calling the guy a conservative. He has no moral compass at all. But I don't think you could call him a liberal either, as they have differing morals/beliefs than conservatives, but they still have morlas/beliefs, they draw a line, albiet in a different location, and perhaps direction. Again, Pan I would group as a "fucktard".
The generalization of liberals as chaotic mindless spineless lunatics with no moral compass is as incorrect as the generalization of conservatives as religious zealots who are cruel to cuddly animals and utterly out of their minds as they march KKK style clutching UZI's.
The lumping of chaotic mindless spineless lunatics as liberals, is as incorrect as lumping religious zealots who are cruel to cuddly animals and utterly out of their minds as they march KKK style clutching UZI's as conservatives.
There are some people who fit in neither group. That lady who butchered her own kids is closer to being a conservative than a liberal, but I wouldn't use that isolated event as a catch all condemnation of all conservatives. Frankly, I'ld sooner lump under the "fucktard" heading, not as a conservative, or as a liberal.
The polarized generalizations of both groups are mind numbing, kind of reminds me of a religious battle, where both sides are sooooo right, that they are utterly wrong.

after joining was because he declined interviews, SEVERAL times. He didn't want people in the army to know who he was as a civilian and wanted to do what his family did. I think his heritage and family upbringing are very impressive.
If you saw the 15 minute special on TIllman's life on sportscenter (i know, its sportscenter...bare with me) you would see what a good upbringing he had.
He wasn't one of those flashy college Fball stars like Marshall Faulk who parked his beemer wherever the fuck he wanted to on campus, ON CAMPUS, in san diego state because wtf is the school gonna do kick them out?
Pat Tillman just like his brother came to ASU with ACADEMIC scholarships, and WALKED ON, and made their respective sports (football, baseball)
If that doesn't spell hardass I don't know where you live.
Also, he fucking rode a 10 speed bike for 6 years until after he got drafted he bought his first car.
So please educate than hold a lecture.