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omfg, dude
SO lemme get this straight, whats the difference between this hero and a Palistine Bomber blowing up targets in Isreal for his cause and country ? -Mujahedeen
Dont even fucking go there man. That was a stupid statement. I didnt even get to finish reading all the other flames you probably got for this statement. Hey jacknut, we are trying to free people. Those fucktards are running in killing innocent people. Like i said 80% of those suicide bombings are killing noncombatant israelis. WTF i am not even going to further back up my statement. I shouldnt have to. Seriously how fucked up are you to sympathize with the palestinian killers?

Hey stupid fuck, the difference is simple. Suicide bombers are killing innocent children and women in way to cause fear and terror. Patrick Tillman was not killing innocent women and children to cause fear and terror, he was killing dirty rag head terrorist fuck faces who cause fear and terror. You are the dumbest most clueless person I swear to god I've ever heard post on any forum ever, you are worse than Panemon and I fucking mean that. Your stupidity surpasses his immaturity by 10x.

I would stfu and just not try and make stupid come backs you're such a loser and it's so god damn apparent don't make it worse for yourself, seriously I think you should kill yourself in real life.

Dude dude dude, so lemme get this straight ... when the israelis go out and with Helicoptors and Tanks and mow down non-combatants to kill a Hamas leader whats the difference. Your stance is so one sided, black and white. I am not saying ethier side is right or wrong, they are killing each other, but come'on your dumb fucker, the bomber is a hero to his people.

I think the difference is that the suicide bomber starts his mission with the intent of causing as much collateral damage as possible (bystanders). The military folks start their mission with the intent of targetting enemies (armed/unarmed, but still not general populous). Granted there is collateral damage in both instances, but the intent of harming innocents is not the core goal of a US soldier on duty. When you get shot at, you'll pull the trigger and point the barrel at moving things. Unfortunately it may be a child. The suicide bomber will blow up a schoolbus on purpose.
In both instances they are trying to provide some form of advancement for a suffering population. I don't agree with the suicide bombers, as they injure non-combatants, and in reality harm their aspirations. The Israeli's commit horrible crimes against the entire Palistinian population, but that crime against humanity is buried by the outcry caused by the suicide bombers. If in fact, the Palistinians documented the abuse, children being squished by tanks etc... and made sure the world saw what was occuring, while taking the high road and not perpetrating more, they would be much further ahead in their goals. Easy to say, when I haven't had a child shot by a sniper, had my wife beaten and humiliated at a checkpoint, had my home destroyed, or my land confiscated.
The worst thing I think now, is the recent release of the abuse going on in the Iraqi prisons by US & British forces. That is the best recruiting material for fanatics ever.
While we read that the president is "disgusted" and there will be an investigation in the local media, in the mid-east media they are listing the exact crimes as listed in the Geneva Convention commited. If folks want to really understand the fallout of this mess, don't read MSNBC or CNN, that shit is not what joe-muslim reads. If you want to understand what that shit is really causing, you need to read Bahrain-times, Tehran-times, Gulf Daily News etc... Remember, those folks watch Al Jazeera while you watch CNN. Each provides the appropriate spin for their customer base. Just as many folks here are happy and content to have their opinion provided by their favorite news organizations personal slant(saves the trouble of thinking for ones self), the same occurs elsewhere. And their slant is pretty harsh, especially now. Isolated or not, these incidents are the last thing we needed, after Bush gave Sharon a green light to do as he pleases with the Palistinians.

bla bla bla .... sorry if your so offended you cant reason anothers viewpoint.

Either way these people are killing for their cause and their way of life, whether it be a suicide bomber, or an ex-NFL player-turned Marine. Though the way they go about honouring their cause is different. A suicide bomber gives his life (which is courageous and noble) but he kills innocent civilians purposely. I'm sure all of us would be the same if we were poor Palestinains being assaulted and killed by Isrealies. Still marines DO end up killing civilians, but it isn't their intent.
Anyways, I still understand what you're saying.

nm... im getting too harsh... lol
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Know what, probably in defence of my stance on this issue I have taken it too far, correct. SO I will say this and end it. Yes I had stated TILLMAN was a hero for what he did. I guess think he is a HERO in a really messed up war. I cannot take away his actions. He did what he did and thats about as close to a person in RL keeping 6th on your back as you will get. So from my standpoint I yeild to the conservatives and the hard core pro-usa types.
I just hope is all that the other side in this arugemtn can see that the people he is fighting have familes as well and when they die it sucks shit too.

You're saying we shouldn't love this country? I've got very few reasons to be pissed off at the United States, and all the reasons in the world to love this country for all that it is.