Lords of Death Forums Lords of Death Forums LoD General Discussion John Kerry the flip flop fag

Foreign Policy I dont think we should listen to the UN, they dont run our country and they dont know whats in our best interest. We dont need there backing for anything.
Taxes I understand right now there is a range of 15%-35% tax brackets. I am not trying to change nor write a new policy, do i believe in flat taxes, probably not seeing how in our current situation ect.. it would probably cause more shit then its worth. I am just for the idea that we are all equal in the US and deserve to pay equally, get the chance for education equally, get everything equally without jumping over infringing on someones rights. That is a thin line.
My fav guy for the economy would be Joe Lieberman
Joes idea on the Economy
I personally feel that we dont have a candidate worthy of being in office, not one candidate has mentioned the borders. This is the biggest issue in the US as far as im concerned.
Yes my professor said this, he did say that the deficit does NOT affect the economy. Of course he told me a huge spiel, basically saying that democrats use this as a platform against republicans because in politics republicans are military spenders and are known for making the deficit jump, whereas democrats are big on the economy and arent into military spending. He said its a big misconception and business and political science majors tend to realize this debt really doesnt have an impact. Seriously, my professor i had last semester is a genious, he knows his shit.
There are two topics in which i dont really talk about or care to have a conversation about. Death Penalty and Abortion. I think these two topics are worthless to talk about when there are bigger issues to tackle. I think these two topics are brought up to label politicians liberal, conservative, compassionate ect... I think there are bigger issues and i care not to look into these very much. <img src="/~stretch/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Im ok with civil unions, but its not what gays want, they need there agenda met. This is yet another special interest that will label a candidate. Its funny how a candidate will tell us how he/she feels about gay marriage or abortion, yet is too scared to offend people or lose votes by touching on the borders. Close em, ship em out.

I think one of the issues with the civil union was that they weren't granted all the rights that married people got. If thats the case then i agree with them, if not then they should be able to deal with a civil union.

So it looks like we have pretty similar views then on a bunch of issues! I guess it just comes down to what isses are most important to each of us and how that will effect a voting decision. One question I have is if you don't like either of the candidates then will you vote for one of them anyway or just choose not to vote? I don't know what I would do in that situation. By the way this has been a great discussion thanks for keeping it going.
That Lieberman link is great, I'm going to read it in more detail. Gotta support a fellow Jewish dude!
On the deficit thing I learned that short term deficits are fine, but long term deficits can be damaging to the economy. This is the Robert Rubin perspective, and what I learned from the economics dept. at NYU-Stern. Academics tend to disagree and have their own points of view so my bad for questioning your statement from your professor.
I pulled this from a recent article from the Brookings institutuion. I'm sure there are other articles that argue the opposite, but I figured I would just show you where I got my viewpoint on deficits from.
Effect of Long Term Deficits :-(
Conventional analyses of sustained budget deficits demonstrate the negative effects of deficits on long-term economic growth. Under the conventional view, ongoing budget deficits decrease national saving, which reduces domestic investment and increases borrowing from abroad.1 Interest rates play a key role in how the economy adjusts. The reduction in national saving raises domestic interest rates, which dampens investment and attracts capital from abroad.2 The external borrowing that helps to finance the budget deficit is reflected in a larger current account deficit, creating a linkage between the budget deficit and the current account deficit. The reduction in domestic investment (which lowers productivity growth) and the increase in the current account deficit (which requires that more of the returns from the domestic capital stock accrue to foreigners) both reduce future national income, with the loss in income steadily growing over time. Under the conventional view, the costs imposed by sustained deficits tend to build gradually over time, rather than occurring suddenly.
Effect of Short Term Deficits :-)
We emphasize that our focus is on the effects of ongoing, sustained budget deficits. It is important to underscore that temporary budget deficits can be beneficial by providing short-term macroeconomic stimulus when the economy is weak and has considerable unused resources of capital and labor. When necessary to spur a weak economy, policy-makers could employ various fiscal policy programs, each with relative advantages and disadvantages in different contexts. Whatever decisions are made about short-run fiscal policy when the economy is weak, the objective should be budget balance over the business cycle.
http://www.brook.edu/views/papers/orszag/20040105.htm

Ya i didnt go into detail enough, long term deficit could probably be bad as you posted above. I am assuming during a time of war a deficit would probably be made. When the US is not at war, and we are at an economic growth is definately a time to pay off debts and concentrate on paying back what is borrowed. I really only was talking about short term, I shouldnt of assumed, but id like to think all presidents would want to cut or eliminate a deficit at a time of peace and prosperity.
I am going to vote for Bush because he has more conservative and traditional views than Kerry does.
Honestly, its a copout but i think Bush is the lesser of the evils. I dont think he did a bad job in office, and i do think Kerry will do a bad job in office.
Ya i enjoy talking with you guys about politics, there are some smart people here.

smart ass...

More importantly, Bush will do this to win the election
For Teh Win
And i guarantee he will win! lkjsadlfkj

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YOU GOT LINKZOR'd to DEATH!!11

When have you supported any Republican besides John McCain? Please show me some links. I'd really like to see them, not because I don't think they exist but because I'd like to see you approach things from a different perspective.
As for the war in Iraq... let's not discuss the reasons behind the war because it's been discussed countless times. But you cannot tell me the world isn't better off with Saddam out of power in the Middle East?
Just in - The majority of the Iraqi people would rather see Bush as President than Kerry (this info ala a CNN poll). Granted this is because Bush would invest more time and resources in the country compared to Kerry. But I'm so glad I don't have to hear anymore bullshit about the majority of Iraqi's not wanting Americans in Iraq because that was a load of horse shit since day one. There is a % that doesn't want an American presence but the majority would like us there to help rebuild.