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but most importantly I was not involved <img src="/~stretch/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> So lets do it again.


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is Kerry as smart as you think? Or do all politicians work so hard they make mistakes?
"On Sunday night in Taylor, Mich., Kerry noted that he had just come from Bowling Green but apparently forgot that he had arrived in the state of the Ohio State Buckeyes' most bitter rival, the University of Michigan Wolverines. The nickname of the Bowling Green team he had celebrated hours earlier also seemed to escape him. 'We just came from Bowling Green, and I was smart enough not to pick a choice between the Falcons and the, you know ... all the other teams out there. I just go for Buckeye football, that's where I'm coming out.' As a smattering of boos alerted him to his faux pas, Kerry tried to right his wrong: 'That's while I was in Ohio. Now I'm in the state of Michigan, and your great big "M" and a powerhouse of a team, and the bottom line is all of us are still waiting for Massachusetts to somehow get in there.'"
His college football team favorite is the team in the state he currently campaigns in? 'That's while I was in Ohio. Now I'm in the state of Michigan. Classic.


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i dont care that much about politics, this is funny though
http://www.comedycentral.com/mp/play.php?reposid=/multimedia/tds/stewart/jon_7131.html

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Couls don't be a hypocrite....remember this?
I love all those quotes of timelines that refernce the Washignton Post, CNN, Washington Press timeline reports etc but give no specific dates for anyone to research if this video maker is telling the truth or taking things and creating his own political BS.
Americans are stupid enough that they believe 90% of what they see without taking the time to research the truth themselves. SO read more than one newspaper, more than one opinion, and go find the information yourself. You might learnt he truth rather than these crock of shit political hack videos.
In case you forgot it came from here..... Couls Speaks
Despite your earlier comments I did watch the video and what I saw (despite the biased source) was John Kerry voicing support for the use of force against Saddam over the course of a 7 year period as a last resort after using allied pressure and diplomacy. Did his opinion about the threat posed by Sadaam change at times during that 7 year period - of course - so did mine and I'm sure yours did as well.
Kerry has had a pretty consistent stance on the Iraq threat, the war on Iraq, and how to fund it. It is best laid out in his floor speech defining why he decided to vote to authorize the use of force in Iraq.
http://www.independentsforkerry.org/uploads/media/kerry-iraq.html
If you think Bush's shoot first ask questions later approach in Iraq is better that is a fine reason to vote for him. I would be more interested to hear your thoughts on that topic. That would make for an interesting discussion. Dueling videos and talking points is getting boring.

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damn, good search.

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Fuck the quotes, weren't the video feeds enough, are you going to try and say someone made those up, used photo shop and super imposed kerry into all those interviews?
But the point of the video is to show inconsistency by changing his mind to fit the political tide at the time, saying it's anything less is blasphemy. The video and interviews speak for themselves. A lot of political players change their mind for opportunity, but when Kerry tries to deny that he was ever for the war, when he was is what is at contention. The video interviews speak for themselves. You guys have Farenlies 9/11 and this video popped up, I guess we're even now kind of.

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Saddam would not let the inspectors do their job, where the fuck have you been dude?
As far as supreme court justices, I'd rather have a conservative judge than a fucking ultra tolerant liberal judge who has compassion for murderers and anyone else for that matter, they make us weak as a nation.

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Cause my documentary page lists the facts where those videos and quotes came from. I even note on the edit portion of my post that there is a fact page.
I think if you read the thread from where you got the Couls Speaks quotes you will see that the page referenced by the post originator had ZERO to back up its claims.
So I will kindly take a withdrawal of your "criticism (sp?)" and go about my merry way.


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And I think you know as well as I do Stretch that his stance on nation building changed due to curcumstance (uh 9/11) not based on a poll number showing how he could win the election. Hardly the same thing now isnt it.


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