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Official report says we don't know if Iraq and Al Qaeda cooperated or not. We do know that they had many meetings we just don't know what came of those, if anything, because we don't have enough evidence.
If you've ever taken statistics you'd know that absence of evidence does not mean evidence of absence.
There is a big difference between harboring Abu Nidal, Abu Abbad, Yasin, etc. and just having terrorists in your country without knowing it.
Moron.

Faruq Hijazi was not low level.
Keep lying Stretch.

No, they sat there and stated there were no ties found. So basically your full of shit.

Rumsfeld met with Saddam Hussain in the early 80's and gave him chemical weapons.
I believe that link should be reviewed for terrorist ties. It appears that we have a terrorist support infrastructure in the administration which should be in Guantanamo Bay there.
Also there is a lot of support for Musharef in Pakistan. That is not a democracy but a military dictatorship which overthrew a legally elected democratic government. Again, those responsible for that kind of contact and support should be immediately expunged and punished (seeing as our current reason for Iraq is the spreading of freedoms wings because they wanted it....oh wait, where are the poll #'s from Iraq saying they wanted it...Excuse for Iraq #17).
Stretch you are talking to a fucking mindless drone there, it is incapable of a unique thought. You may as well pull up National Standard and just yell at your screen and see if it reviews it's own content.
You are a typical liberal, you think that everyone is capable of an evolutionary thought process, you are being proven wrong over and over. There are some who are incapable of stopping, looking at a river and saying "thats a river" because they're been brain washed to say "that's a coal mine with flapping wings". When it dries out you say "thats a dried out river", they wait for their definition from their diety.
You can look at something and think for yourself, that used to be one of the corner stones of freedom. I'm sorry to report to you, that is now not allowed. It's derisive and a counter mob mentality.
Plz stop it and support the mindless drones immediately (if not they will throw facts and quotes at you).
Remember their quotes are called "truths" and "facts", anything you see which counters them, are called "propaganda". Please label your material appropriately.

-Thomas Kean, chairman of the 9/11 Commission
July 22, 2004
Dumbfuck.

Pwned by the facts so he resorts to a page-long attempt at derisive humor.
A failed attempt, but whatever.
Yes Rumsfeld met with Hussein. He was sent there as a special envoy of President Reagan. We had ties to Hussein at the time up to the invasion of Kuwait. Nobody denies that.
So how are you going to deny the several meetings Iraqi intelligence had with Al Qaeda? What do you think they met for? A tea party?
Dumbass.

I wasn;t just listing off Muslim names. I listed off terrorist names that Saddam harbored.
Are you so fucking stupid that you didn't recognize the name of Abu Nidal? How can you have a debate about terrorism with someone who doesn't know who Abu Abbas is?
Yes, you said Iraqi government and Al Qaeda. Faruq Hijazi was head of the IIS. That is like George Tenet going to meet Bin Laden back in 1998. That's not low level contacts you dipshit.
Jesus Christ you are a fucking moron.

Who says I'm denying anything?
If in fact there are meetings, then the content of those meeting are important.
That may be difficult to assertain.
Please bear in mind, I would fully support this Iraq effort if I could get a solid reason to. Frankly I would prefer to.
The primary reason for this undertaking has flip flopped too many times, and the front-runner reason-du-jour is never very solid. It is merely whatever bandaid can be slapped on it for the time being.
I would much prefer that WMD were in fact found en masse as was originally pandered. That would have had a much better outcome for everyone.
Can ya link the pre-invasion poll from within Iraq where they say they want a change of government? I just want to check out the numbers (pro -vs- con).
Since the reason-du-jour is to provide the democracy that Iraqis want, there must be a poll which gave us that indicator prior to this whole endevour.
Do you think this would be covered under the "we will do no nation building" statement?
All rhetoric and sarcasm aside, I doubt their ability to actually have a democracy. That has nothing to do with the US and it's intent, efforts or goals. Rather I do not believe the Iraqi's are mature enough to be able to do it and follow through. They are still glued to a millenium old system of chieftains, sultans, rulers, dictators. I have trouble believeing that any peace would last there. Again, it is nothing to do with the US or UK, but rather the way they are.

Read this
and now lets read the report : 9/11 Commsion Home Website and .
PDF full report download.
Where are the links to AQ sir.

You do not I guess. That is not the name of a person but a name of a terrorist group. IE NOT AQ but Abu Nidal Organization (ANO). In essence its like you saying that since Iraq supported Goodyear Tires, they certainly must have Firestone hiding somewhere.
The name of the man who runs this outfit is not !!! BIN LADEN , but Sabri al-Banna. Now I do wish to say, OK some have refered to the man who started this as Abu Nidal ,but if that is where you want to stick teh facts to fine, he split from the PLO sir, not AQ.
November 2002, Abu Nidal died in Baghdad; the new leadership of the organization is unclear But they are Palastine , IE Arab terrorists who want to kill Israelies. Not Anti-American AQ wanna bes.
IF you do not know trhe difference between PLO terrorists and AQ, then you sir are the
"dumbfuck"