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What posts are you looking at by the way? I see three Liberals Psting Being Stretch, the camel Fucker and once in a great while one of the silent member will say something and immediately get gang banged by time of you psycos.
Fine Geneva Convetion Rights not good enough? I'll just bust out all the points invloved with The taing away of rights. Oh and If you haven't figured out Terrorist is a rather easy label to get if you are conforming to the governments way of thinking. Have some Radical Views? You could already be labeled as a terrorist.
And if Labeled as a terrorist you lose.
Geneva Convention Rights (Food, water, shelter, no nerve agents to be used against you, Biological warfare ect ect)
Right to Due Process.
Any privacy in matters of investigating Terrorist (Wire taps, MEDICAL RECORDS)
Your email can be checked by the government so can your voicemail.
You can be subpeonaed for any preveious Electronic communication. ...
Should I go on?
It used to be the Right who was worried about all This Shit, How come a commie pinko like me needs to brng this to your attention.

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What posts are you looking at by the way? I see three Liberals Psting Being Stretch, the camel Fucker and once in a great while one of the silent member will say something and immediately get gang banged by time of you psycos.

Try the search option douchebag.
As far as losing any liberties or freedom, all you are referencing is what ifs, not a freedom you've lost, so please list a freedom YOU HAVE LOST or stfu, you lack comprehension, can't even answer one simple question. Please stop wasting our time if you continue to be this moronic.
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Your email can be checked by the government so can your voicemail.
You can be subpeonaed for any preveious Electronic communication.

Your email can be checked anyway if you're the target of an investigation, nothing new.
Yah, and with new cyber crime laws, the government can subpoena your ISP for your information anyway, nothing new yet again. get a clue


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Article 5
Where, in the territory of a Party to the conflict, the latter is satisfied that an individual protected person is definitely suspected of or engaged in activities hostile to the security of the State, such individual person shall not be entitled to claim such rights and privileges under the present Convention as would, if exercised in the favour of such individual person, be prejudicial to the security of such State.
Where in occupied territory an individual protected person is detained as a spy or saboteur, or as a person under definite suspicion of activity hostile to the security of the Occupying Power, such person shall, in those cases where absolute military security so requires, be regarded as having forfeited rights of communication under the present Convention.
In each case, such persons shall nevertheless be treated with humanity, and in case of trial, shall not be deprived of the rights of fair and regular trial prescribed by the present Convention. They shall also be granted the full rights and privileges of a protected person under the present Convention at the earliest date consistent with the security of the State or Occupying Power, as the case may be.
So how come we aren't extending Geneva Convention Rights to the Iraqs or Pakistanis whose countries WE invaded?

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What are you referring to? Putting underwear on their heads and embarrasing them? Give me a fucking break. At least we aren't sawing their heads off, idiot.


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maybe reread the first 2 paragraphs?terorist acts are considerd hostile to the state..and how are we mistreating them acording to the convention?



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you don't seem to get it do you? The Government is overreaching it's set boundries. Under the guise of national security they have made it very easy to watch every thing you do. The Term terrorist is such a mide open defination ANYONE who doesn't agree with a given policy can get labeled as a terroist. Investgated, Tortured, locked up for life. The problem I am having with this is no one gives a shit. But much why The Wall street Journal Sided with Larry Flint when he was being attacked over penthouse. It's not the fact that your losing rights right now, It's that you will in the future.
What happens if today Kerry gets in office and takes out and extreme anti-gun law which you are vehemently oppsoed to? you come on these boards and rant and rave about how you'll stop at nothing to stop kerry....
Boom, Your on a watch list.
So further investagation goes on, and they find sufficent evidence that you could be detained (Rally others to your beliefs, perhaps you own several guns) and now you rot in a cell, labeled as a terrorist without Due process, All because you thought it was your civil duty to defend some retard president under the guise of patriotic. It's When people stop questioning Presidents that trouble occurs. and it's when you start beiliving the little lies that the big ones become easier to digest...

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What about dog bites, starvation, Being forced to stand on a wooden box for days at a stretch if this was happening to an American we would have bombed them already

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You're living in the paranoid world man, you're so worried about being labeled a terrorist, wtf is your problem man? All of your arguements are based on what if's, and about being labeled a terrorist. So would you rather have the terrorists able to operate without hinderance in this country just so you can not be worried about being labeled a terrorist yourself? Please come up with something with more substance before you try to defend it with such conviction.


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So a few service men dis obyed the rules and humiliated some prisoners, boo hoo, are we sawing ppls heads off? Ok, now stfu already.


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Most judges are Liberal people, that are scared of the ACLU so they have the final say if they FBI can act on there tips. There still is checks and balances on every thing that people do to aprehend people and hold them. Matter of fact it worked in Portland With Mike Hawawsh part of the Portland 7 that was taken away held for No reason for a year and then he finaly confessed. After all these dumb ass ladies were protesting his capture, haha on them after everyone found out he was gulty. Id rather have the government arrest towel heads on a suspesion rather then not.

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