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You honestly believe that he doesn't use faith in his judgement more so than other people? If kerry believes in god why didn't he have the exact same beliefs as bush?

don't take your talking points from the media, they have an agenda. Whether that be the liberal media at large or the few conservative media outlets like Fox, they only tell you what to think.
Learn to separate the propaganda from the actual news. Think for yourself you lemming.

kerry has different views as bush because he's a DEMOCRAT! you know socialist? bush believes in god, and i'd imagine he uses his beliefs as a set of guidlines, like... oh not killing babies, and raping women, or stealing cars or something like that. but is it so bad to have someone in office that has morals? didnt think so. thx.

Personally, I would have voted for neither, I would have voted for my dog.
I like some of each candidates items they touted, and disliked others.
ie:
I personally like Bushes idea of allowing a person to invest part of their social security.
I dislike his stand on stem cell research. I prefer Kerry's approach (allowing it).
regardless, lets hope the next 4 years make things better.

Bush did not ban stem cell research. That is a flat out lie and you know it.
Bush's budget has something like $250 million allocated for adult stem cell research and $30 million for embryonic.
Federal funding for only the embryonic path is limited to the already existing cell lines so that more embryos are not destroyed. It is an ethical problem for too many people so the President found a compromise.
There is no limit on federal funding for adult stem cell research, which of course is the more promising of the two. There is no limit on private funding of embryonic stem cell research either.
So don't try to lie and say Bush won't allow stem cell research. That's bullshit and you know it. Bush was the first President to ever give any federal money to the field at all. And don't try to spread the other lie that it's a new concept either. It's not. We've known about stem cells and manipulating stem cells for decades. For example, bone marrow transplants are just stem cell transplants.
Once again: I win, you lose.
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You wanna talk juvenile, the day after the election thousands of Liberals Shut down major cities with Civil Disobeadiance and Protesting. How many times will you ever see Repubs Protesting or rioting? The answer is never, the liberals of this country think of themselves as red-headed step children. So they have to Pout about everything, i should know i live near Portland these pathetic fucks Protest everything and cause a big tiff in the downtown area everytime, pouring acid on windows and cops, damaging passing cars with little children in them and plugging up freeways. They didnt even have a reason to protest this time they wernt fighting for anything, they just did it to say that 52% of america is wrong lol. Go eat a granola bar and go visit the dark one.!

See ratings. Fox has cleaned everyone's house because the people prefered hearing both sides of an issue rather than have everything spun at them from abc cbs nbc and cnn. Fox has kicked all their collective asses and have reduced them to having only ideological crowdsthat follow their own political bent.

Perhaps you haven't worked in the medical research field, I have, and do. I've been doing advanced medical research for many years, so please don't lecture me on it. Yipping "marrow" ever so proudly is actually kind of embarassing for you, welcome to 5th grade biology. Stem cells also can be harvested from fat tissue, cerebrum etc...
Just wondering what your backbround is in medical research to provide you with such all-encompassing caustic remarks.
250 mil buys you nothing.
The "allowed" stem cell lines are polluted, and are of little or no value at all.
To allow just those lines, plus only allocating 250 mil is not really doing anything but proving a "yes we're allowing it" tagline, while in reality stifling it.
If I am wrong on this, do let me know what research you've done in the medical field and what it cost.
The reality of it is that a large portion of the people who are pioneering this research have left the US in the last 2 to 3 years, they have gone to England to pursue it, and the results are promising. The royalties, and further research will benefit those countries which promote the technique. The front runners in that right now are England, and China.
I would prefer that the limits are relaxed so private industry can pursue it. They will bankroll it, and develop it. The limits are so tight that there is really not much they can do, although in the past 12 months a degree of relaxation has occured on the federally imposed boundaries. That is really a reaction to the long term view of medical research (whoever owns the treatments and research resulting from this, will own the future of medicine).
This is not an "I win, you lose" thing. You are making yourself out to be a complete fucking moron doing that shit.
Nobody wins or loses in this discussion, it's not a competition.
You need to lay off the caffiene or find some relaxants. If you've gone this far over the edge with your paranoia about everyone attacking your voting choice, then there is no further need to discuss anything with you, you've become a political variant of panemon.
You have gone over the edge and are posting things which present you as unstable. This nonstop competition rubbish with the "HA I proved you wrong...I win! I win! I win! I win! I win! I win! I win!! I win! I win! I win!! I win! I win! I win!! I win! I win! I win!! I win! I win! I win!! I win! I win! I win! crap really makes you look like a fucking tool. Especially when it is about something you may not be as informed about as you believe yourself to be.
Discuss intellgently and forget your election, it's over and done with, move along, get your brain back. You used to be an intelligent poster who had interesting posts.
important note: I do not "Win" on this post, or claim to. Thats for children.

Was too busy working while the election and "2 days after" were going on to really see news or anything.
I have to agree with you that people doing that shit is juvenile and stupid. Don't go thinking I approve of shit like that, when they do those "clog traffic with bicycles" things, I think "bulldozer".
Guess it applies to both groups. Within each you have sore losers, sore winners, and people who are level headed.
and btw. I fucking hate granola, that shit is like eating small rocks glued together. I prefer meat, some animal which walked on the earth, was killed, slaughtered, butchered and put over a fire.

mmmmm...Veal