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what i got from what he was saying is that when a president is funded by a specific company, and is elected, they expect their back scratched. and when that president is a major oil player....well u can do the math. thats why all those pictures of monkeys picking each others fleas comparing it to politicians...is so true. im all for saving the planet but i love my mustang <img src="/~stretch/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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The lawsuits are going to end this country long before a 1 degree every 100 year increase will.
Ya, all drivers are going to have to pay reparations to mother earth in the form of tax to our government because we all know the gov spends our money better than we do lol.
I hope the judge bills the San Fransickos (City) responsible for this law suit for ALL court costs.
Good find Bal
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Im the fag in the camo hat
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If 1/2 the US went to a hybrid car it wouldnt even touch the amount of pollution being put out by predominantly coal burning China does in a fucking year. Exactly, if you want to stop Global warming it takes a global solution. Global Warming is a fad like Acid Rain which has seemed to disappear in the past years.
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You?re Question?? What ever happened to those cars that ran on electric years back? A bunch of people were driving them, and they were doing ok, then they vanished. I heard somewhere that the car companies recalled all of them for the sole purpose that they were "too reliable" aka they weren?t making any money off them via parts/service/ect.?
The answer is the government only leased those electric cars to the public (because of legal legislation) and then after a few years saw they where doing ?good?
Government didn?t want the cars around any more so they recalled them all and actually had them crushed into small boxes (no joke) it ticked off a lot of people! And at the same time they removed all of the Web sights that had any thing to do with electric cars because they didn?t want the public to learn any more about the car that 100% runs on no fuel that they can sell you.
The problem with Hydrogen cars is ? they run on water (this = 0 cash flow) because when the people (there is some smart ones in this world) actually sit down and think for a few min they can split H2O2 into H and power there own car and house with very little investment (2-5 thousand $) and then sell that ?H? to there friends and Nabors and take the $ away from the government. *ouch* no more oil problems no more big money. yeh like the government wants a car out there (one of there biggest cash flow + to be taken away) so the government is trying to make cars that run on Hydrogen + gas (don?t want to go 100%no gas that would take to much money away) or try to make a car that runs on a Hydrogen ?Ball? that they can sell you.
All in all its very very corrupt system ?the car industry ?
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You?re Question?? What ever happened to those cars that ran on electric years back? A bunch of people were driving them, and they were doing ok, then they vanished. I heard somewhere that the car companies recalled all of them for the sole purpose that they were "too reliable" aka they weren?t making any money off them via parts/service/ect.?
The answer is the government only leased those electric cars to the public (because of legal legislation) and then after a few years saw they where doing ?good?
Government didn?t want the cars around any more so they recalled them all and actually had them crushed into small boxes (no joke) it ticked off a lot of people! And at the same time they removed all of the Web sights that had any thing to do with electric cars because they didn?t want the public to learn any more about the car that 100% runs on no fuel that they can sell you.
The problem with Hydrogen cars is ? they run on water (this = 0 cash flow) because when the people (there is some smart ones in this world) actually sit down and think for a few min they can split H2O2 into H and power there own car and house with very little investment (2-5 thousand $) and then sell that ?H? to there friends and Nabors and take the $ away from the government. *ouch* no more oil problems no more big money. yeh like the government wants a car out there (one of there biggest cash flow + to be taken away) so the government is trying to make cars that run on Hydrogen + gas (don?t want to go 100%no gas that would take to much money away) or try to make a car that runs on a Hydrogen ?Ball? that they can sell you.
All in all its very very corrupt system ?the car industry ? wtf...?
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Lord of Bacon
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actually the electric powered ones are still around. I converted 2 cars to electric power in high school. The problem with them is the batteries. Goods quality gel batteries are expensive while the standard lead acid batteries arent very practical.
changes will have to be made incrimentally. itll be gas to hybrid to electric to ethanol to hydrogen or something similar. (Go French Fry mobile! )
The government could make hybrids popular and practical (they are gaining in popularity and reliability regardless) by offering better tax breaks/rebates.
I dont believe its a complete conspiracy on the governments part but I do believe there are certain decision-making people who's lifestyle is due to the oil industry and arent willing to give it up for whatever reason. I guess a cleaner world with a healthier population isnt good enough reason.
You ever wake up and it's really clear and fresh and it just feels good to be alive?
I wonder what that would be like if it happened 100 days a year instead of 10.
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Can't wait to see the outcome of this one.
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Politicians controlling oil prices is a conspiracy. It is also a theory. Government cover-up of 9/11 is a conspiracy. It is also a theory. Make of those what you will.
I don't understand how you go from "forcing a company to make a certain product = communism (the central planning side of communism)" to "suing a company into compliance = communism."
You imagine half of content you think I write.
My use of the label communism wasn?t an attempt to invoke images of Russians or Vietnamese murdering their own citizens who criticize them. However, it was used to invoke an image of what happens when centralized planning (instead of choice) controls the market. I?m not implying that if you let the government use incentives so we utilize alternatives our market is going to collapse. I am reminding people of what happens when governments do control markets though.
With that being said, I like tax-break incentives for using alternatives. I support it. I do not support our government forcing the auto manufacturing industry to make a certain product though.
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We would have to read the results of the report to have any meaningful discussion about global warming, in relation to what it claims.
However, if the government is going to use my money to fund research that isn't related to national security, I'd like to be able to read it.
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