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what's a good pvp class for an orc?
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I dont think any fuking carebear here gets it. Do you guys even know what was fun at about UO and what made it different from SB/WoW/Vangay? Fuk. Let me readdress a point, VG has coin loots and are considering some sort of item drops. Sieging and a plan to make PVP vital to racial dominance expected. Brad of VG has stated many times he wants pvp deaths to mean something (Right now you do get item duration loss no exp yet) WOW has been out for 2 years now and still haven't allowed any loot system While VG is just getting out of beta.. give it a chance What the fucking shit is coin loot? Dont tell me you get excited for that shit... coin loot. Go play D2... when you pk people you get coin loot. Oh ya... they are considering something more? Well good point, WoW was considering the same thing when it came out.. a pvp system... what became of it? A fuking mess. If there is not FULL item loot, gold, inventory and gear then its not looting period. I dont want a chance for a item, I dont want just their gold, fuck the chances fuck the gold, You kill a man you get everything he has. If not... well... why play vanguard when WoW has a better pvm aspect with 'pvp considering changes' and has over 7 million subscribers? Why would you waste your time with vanguard when your not even a fan of looting. Go fucking cry... because you have fallen for a pvm game.
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Lord of Malice
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I dont think any fuking carebear here gets it. Do you guys even know what was fun at about UO and what made it different from SB/WoW/Vangay? Fuk. Let me readdress a point, VG has coin loots and are considering some sort of item drops. Sieging and a plan to make PVP vital to racial dominance expected. Brad of VG has stated many times he wants pvp deaths to mean something (Right now you do get item duration loss no exp yet) WOW has been out for 2 years now and still haven't allowed any loot system While VG is just getting out of beta.. give it a chance What the fucking shit is coin loot? Dont tell me you get excited for that shit... coin loot. Go play D2... when you pk people you get coin loot. Oh ya... they are considering something more? Well good point, WoW was considering the same thing when it came out.. a pvp system... what became of it? A fuking mess. If there is not FULL item loot, gold, inventory and gear then its not looting period. I dont want a chance for a item, I dont want just their gold, fuck the chances fuck the gold, You kill a man you get everything he has. If not... well... why play vanguard when WoW has a better pvm aspect with 'pvp considering changes' and has over 7 million subscribers? Why would you waste your time with vanguard when your not even a fan of looting. Go fucking cry... because you have fallen for a pvm game. Very SOLID point. If VG opens a server with Full loot, Death Penality and FFA killing I am sure alot of LoD would be down to play. VG dev team has already stated even if a server opens up with those rules there will be NO server moves to that server. The best bet is to wait out a server with that rule set.
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Lord of Canucks
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Every Game like this promises their "considering" full PvP full Loot major death penaltys and all that good stuff BUT it never happens and frankly i cant believe why anyone buys in to this talk that is straight from their ass they need to put up or shut up none of this promises bullshit.
Do you really think they dont know people like us are looking for a Full PvP game? they make these promises so they can try and get us in to the game and shift our ways like They Did in WoW.
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looting coins and playing diplomat.
I'll keep up with PKing and burning people's cities down in Shadowbane. SB may be old, SB may be graphically ugly, but SB is still the best damn game out in terms of character diversity and most importantly: gameplay -- If not for the sb.exe bugs on its release, its quite possibly the best MMO of all time... yes even better than UO... well... ok maybe not UO:PRE UOR, but better than after.
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Better then UO? Not by a longshot, a great game? well if they fixed the lag issues and several bugs then yes. UO was never a gorgeous game, but then again it was old. But god bless the pvp element. I was a pure PK on the game and one of my PK buddies Fire let me log on his account one day. He had the most aweful character id ever seen GM'd in only one skill but he was ridiclous and able to pk the shi outta people. There are no MMORPGs now days where there is a significant skill over stats/gear element in the pvp side. Beyond that there is damn near no games that let you loot and truely grief people. While SB allows you to siege cities I dont think its nearly as good as UO (first year) was. Tho its prob still the best out.
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How SB started and where SB is now compared to how UO started and where UO is now... SB wins.
I agree that the first year of UO is pretty much unbeatable, but that game continued to get gayer and gayer to the point of not even worth playing. SB may have started out tough with the lag and crashes, but if you look at where it is now it just got better and better.
There's a reason we are all playing SB right now, and not UO or even some Pre UOR Player run shard. SB is just better.
Its probably a pointless debate, but IMO, SB rivals UO in terms of overall game play. No other game even come close to either of these two.
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lol this would be a long pointless debate <img src="/~stretch/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> anyway been a long time bal, u got a vent or messanger i can talk to you on briefly?
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Shrek -
Myself, Obidiah, Carnage , EE, Lucenthawk, Asp, Jackie Chan-HK, and the rest of the lord LOD crew had some amazing times in UO. Some of my best memories was pking soth outside of trinsic and making great alliances within the first month of UO retail (alpha and beta was fun too.. but thats another story).
Im not doing to argue nor debate what works for you, I was merely letting some of the core LOD members the amount of fun I've been having allot of fun within Vanguard, which has brought some of the mmo "magic" from the old days back (DAOC,EQ,EQ2,Lineage2, Guildwars, SB, WOW.later). Be fun to run with the old pvp crew, regardless if they haven't implemented every design the first day of retail.
Best,
-Dez
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