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I dont think any fuking carebear here gets it.
Do you guys even know what was fun at about UO and what made it different from SB/WoW/Vangay?
Fuk.
Let me readdress a point,
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VG has coin loots and are considering some sort of item drops. Sieging and a plan to make PVP vital to racial dominance expected. Brad of VG has stated many times he wants pvp deaths to mean something (Right now you do get item duration loss no exp yet) WOW has been out for 2 years now and still haven't allowed any loot system While VG is just getting out of beta.. give it a chance

What the fucking shit is coin loot? Dont tell me you get excited for that shit... coin loot. Go play D2... when you pk people you get coin loot. Oh ya... they are considering something more? Well good point, WoW was considering the same thing when it came out.. a pvp system... what became of it? A fuking mess.
If there is not FULL item loot, gold, inventory and gear then its not looting period. I dont want a chance for a item, I dont want just their gold, fuck the chances fuck the gold, You kill a man you get everything he has. If not... well... why play vanguard when WoW has a better pvm aspect with 'pvp considering changes' and has over 7 million subscribers? Why would you waste your time with vanguard when your not even a fan of looting.
Go fucking cry... because you have fallen for a pvm game.

Very SOLID point.
If VG opens a server with Full loot, Death Penality and FFA killing I am sure alot of LoD would be down to play.
VG dev team has already stated even if a server opens up with those rules there will be NO server moves to that server.
The best bet is to wait out a server with that rule set.