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#291956 08/12/08 07:01 AM
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I love war as much as the next guy, but we're really fuckin up here.
Apparently weve been helping arm Georgia, and moved some troops of their troops back to fight Russia. Then we tell Russia to act civilized and not invade a former republic?
This globalizm bullshit needs to stop, before we go instigating WW3.
I have no problem with the Iraq war, Saddam had been sanctioned and warned and given chances by the UN, before we went in to knock him out.
But this is just fuckin stupid. The port shit and now this? As if we didn't already have enough to worry about with Iran talking more and more shit, and testing weapons, not to mention our own economic problems. The last thing we need is to go telling soveriegn nations what to do.
Maybe it's time to build a bomb shelter . . .


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second post about the same thing ive read today, on different websites. and they both ended with i need to build a bomb shelter..
just eerily similar... anyways

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Georgia vs Russia is a war? that's like me stepping on an ant hill and calling it war sorry but Georgia is fucked.
This shit was over as soon as it started.

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Or more accurately, as soon as the Georgians started it (with a nod and a wink from Bush apparently). Georgia will be lucky to keep its independence let only the lives of its soldiers (Russia is punitively going after the retreated Georgian military, not for military goals but for political goals). However, I see nothing wrong with the US airlifting their troops back to Georgia from Iraq. That's still a neutral action you do for an ally.
However, the Europeans should be shitting their pants because Russia may have some designs concerning that huge pipeline from Georgia to Europe. Higher oil prices? Duh.

Id be pissed off too if i was Russia. Russia had "peacekeepers" in the region where Georgia decided to start shelling and firing rockets


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Im sure this also has a lot to do with putin still showing the world that hes in charge not Medvedev.

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"with a nod and a wink from Bush apparently"
Reference please. I just want to see your information on this.

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yea, me too! if bush was really involved, wow.

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"with a nod and a wink from Bush apparently"
Reference please. I just want to see your information on this.

its the implied nod and wink.
Georgia has been lobbying to get into NATO for some time. They have been a staunch supporter of the US/Bush in its moves on Iraq and Afghanistan. Bush in fact gave a pretty hardline key note speech on Georgian soil a few months back saying "Georgia is a key ally in the region blah blah blabbity blah..."...
Putin called his bluff and moved.....US is now completely handcuffed...Georgia is on an island. Any western troops that set foot in Georgia to defend the country will be seen as an aggressive move against Russia...


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This is what it is all about.
The Kremlin under Prime Minister Putin used gas exports to Europe as a tool of foreign policy. Reduced supplies to eastern Europe forced Russia's neighbors to curtail pro-western ambitions. Western Europe, especially Germany, is dangerously vulnerable to reduced supplies from Russia at times of political tension.
Georgian politicians accused Russia of waging the war to achieve wider strategic goals. Moscow has portrayed it as an intervention on behalf of beleaguered renegade enclaves.
Read this.
On October 3, 1938, Adolf Hitler?s armies marched into Sudetenland, a part of Czechoslovakia. Germany said it was responding to separatist demands from the large German population that lived there and that she was merely honoring their desire for reunion with Germany. Hitler?s tanks took over a vital part of an independent country that had largely rejected his overtures and allied itself with the West. Neither Britain nor France nor the United States did a thing to stop him.
On August 7, 2008, Vladimir Putin?s armies marched into South Ossetia, a part of Georgia. Russia said it was responding to separatist demands from the large Russian population that lived there and that she was merely honoring their desire for reunion with Russia. Putin?s tanks took over a vital part of an independent country that had largely rejected his overtures and allied itself with the West. Neither Britain nor France nor the United States did a thing to stop him.
Encouraged by his occupation of Sudetenland, Hitler continued his designs on Czechoslovakia itself and invaded the rest of the nation a few months later.
Will history continue to repeat itself?
Will history repeat itself?

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Still waiting for you to give an answer to your proof surrogate statment...
"with a nod and a wink from Bush apparently"
I want you to show your information that Bush gave the nod for this unbelievable stupid move from the Georgian president.

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