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Spin doctor, you know what I meant; average out your GPA with your classmates because that is the only fair way.
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No as I stated above, medical access should be nondiscriminatory as it is. The payment of the care is individual, as it should be.
Since we are talking about the bottom line, money. Is your argument that if you do not have money, you have a right to the fruit of another mans labor? Could you make this argument about food and shelter as well, being that they are more of a necessity than health care?
I think we can agree to disagree about what is fair and what is not. It is refreshing talking about the nuts and bolts of an ideology rather than partisan bickering.
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No as I stated above, medical access should be nondiscriminatory as it is. The payment of the care is individual, as it should be.
Since we are talking about the bottom line, money. Is your argument that if you do not have money, you have a right to the fruit of another mans labor? Could you make this argument about food and shelter as well, being that they are more of a necessity than health care?
I think we can agree to disagree about what is fair and what is not. It is refreshing talking about the nuts and bolts of an ideology rather than partisan bickering.
Yes, water\substance and shelter should also be covered for those who can't afford it (and largely already is). Money is NOT the bottom line. Human life is. That's the difference between us. You think that a guy working a $50 an hour job has more value than a guy working a $5 an hour job.
What if 25 years from now we finish a molecular generator that can create us ANYTHING we want out of thin air? There would no longer be currency. How would you then decide whose life is worth value and whose life is not? A resource based system or just revolt until the outdated system of money can dictate who gets to live? Is the bottom line for you really about money like you say?
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Sorry you think that I value a person based on how much they make. Its just not the case, and a strong conclusion to come to based on a few posts on a gaming forum.
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Sorry you think that I value a person based on how much they make. Its just not the case, and a strong conclusion to come to based on a few posts on a gaming forum.
Well could you give me some actual info on who does "deserve" health care, shelter, food, and non-diseased water under your plan?
How do you base it? Is it how much they give back to society? Is it skill\talent based? Is it based on genetics? Is it based on how "cool" they are?
The only argument you have had so far in this thread is Life vs Money. So I'm sorry if I came about the wrong conclusion. I'm just interested in how you would do things if it was up to you.
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Your drivel is not worthy of debate.
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as I stated above, medical access should be nondiscriminatory as it is. The payment of the care is individual, as it should be.
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See my previous post in regard to bullshit.
Shit happens, blame Bush!
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Oh, really?
How many "atheist" Republicans do you know?
I would have to say that I have a more "moderate" perspective than most people out there.
Shit happens, blame Bush!
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Oh, really?
How many "atheist" Republicans do you know?
I would have to say that I have a more "moderate" perspective than most people out there.
What are you talking about? Are you replying to the correct thread or something?
By the way I've been a registered republican since I was 18 and I'm an atheist, what are you talking about and why does it concern this thread?
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