no ty and darkfall is total newb smash game the only game that took real skill to pvp (ive played every fag mmo took #1 in arenas for wow for 2 seasons same with my bro) was ultima online and any legit pvper would agree with me. i smashed lod with my mule characters on ultima thats how bad they are only few guys who were decent even made carnage cry irl so wasup