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Minisang]scouts mad milk is useless except for putting out fires, you still have to know how to move and aiming on a scout isnt easy. you also have no long range weapons with the mad milk. The shortstop is a step down from the other shot guns as well since it does less damage and you cant jump higher with it.

Soldier: The black box is a decent item but in no ways OP, having 1 less shot makes jumping then shooting almost pointless and you only get back 15 health with it per shot, not per target hit.

Sniper: you cant head shot with jarate gun and the anti headshot hat only works with the whole set, and you still die in 1 hit from another sniper if he body shots you

Spy: Eternal reward makes it so you cant disguise yourself making that first kill hard. It also makes the best spy item which is the dead ringer pretty hard to use, it is a VERY situational item and most spys still use the regular knife because of this.

Scout is harder with mad milk
Soldier is about the same, a bit harder to get kills but a bit more survivability
Pyro is almost a direct upgrade if you didnt use the BB
Sniper is harder to get kills with jarate gun
Spy is also harder with eternal reward

Have you even tried using the weapons or do you even play the game or are you just spouting complete nonsense that you heard from some noob on some noob server?



I never said they were OP, I said they put the game on easy mode for those who suck. It dumbs down the game a little too much for too many classes.

The only weapon that I think they should remove for being OP is the Cuntsman. What was the con to the sniper? Limited vision and slow movement for a damaging shot. Well, the huntsman removed all of that and added survivability by allowing you to spam around corners, get head shots while being shot point blank by other classes etc, your shots dont go off target like they did with the scope.