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Being a libertarian, I'm not big on the idea of more government regulations, especially of constitutionally protected rights....that said though, I do firmly believe that any history of mental illness or psychiatric treatment should preclude you from ever owning a firearm.

Word. I had to drive to Reno to get my high capacity mags for my SR9

You hear the story of the government class where representatives from the Republican and Democratic parties are present, along with a Libertarian?

A student asks about gun control, and the Republican and Democrat give their canned, all-too-familiar stump speeches. The class turns to the Libertarian, and he says, "well, gun control is a powerful issue. And the Libertarian stance on gun control is that two hands should always be used when discharging a firearm."

Ha. I think half the class switched party affiliation.

yeah i tried to have 20 round clips sent to CA for my xD, needless to say they never arrived....

I'm coming down your way for New Years to visit Black Jack and am planning a drive up to Reno this weekend. PM your number. If I make it up there before I come down, ill pick em up for you.

This event is a truely aweful moment in modern american history.. all of us should have the victums, their families, & all those affected by this event in our prayers.

With that said if any of you fucking yahoos want more gun control youre fucking stupid.. the further we get from American roots the worse this country gets. At one point every American was tought that the gun was his right & its purpose was for the survival & protection of his family.. why the fuck we keep trying to go away from what made us great in this country is beyond me.

Several of those teachers were some brave women that once they had heard the first shots they hid their children & for atleast one such teacher she got to get blasted by this psyco while she had her children hidding in the coat clossets... truely smart, brave, couragous souls right there.

How about instead of more gun control we give EVERYONE a gun & show em how to use it.. meaning if you gave one of those truely smart, brave, couragous souls that saved the lives of their children at the cost of their own that day a mother fucking gun of their own & even with no training that psyco would have gone down the moment he came through the door with that rifle poking through.. One of those teachers if every one of em was armed would have blasted this fuckers head off.

I am 100% for children of the age of 14-18 take mandatory full on driving & firearms training.. think about the drop in accidents, crime, etc. that would come about something like that. Too bad there are way to many anti-american borderline retarded window lickers with a vote that wouldnt allow such a thing to happen.

"“We get schooled by the people around us, and it stays inside us deep.”

I would be for effective preventative measures that didn't infringe upon constitutional rights. So far I haven't heard any and as long as this debate has raged on I'm going to go ahead and assume there aren't any until proven otherwise.

RE: The Alcohol/DUI analogy. The law that was broken was murder. I in no way advocate for the legalization of murder just as I wouldn't advocate for the legalization of DUI. Murder should obviously remain illegal, but since there are so many ways it can be committed, many of which seemingly can't be solved with legislation, I think it smarter to examine the "will".

The analogy between guns and alcohol I see is Guns:Alcohol, Obtaining Illegal Guns:Illegal Alcohol, DUI:MURDER, which would only further prove my point as we all know how easy it was to obtain alcohol illegally while underage.

I do agree that a combination of treating both the "will" and the "way" would be most effective if means to prevent the "way" were found.

I think this http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhdOXdw1hAd0Q764Ku is a good example of why we should not give guns to everyone.

I agree that guns should remain available to each American citizen, but I believe there should be restrictions on who can own a firearm. Idiots like the above sandwich maker are prime examples of fools who, if they had a gun on them, would probably shoot somebody over a fucking sandwich.

I think you're giving a lot of stupid people undeserved credit by thinking that we can simply teach gun safety and be okay with that. I believe a test should be issued before you get your FOID (kind of like a driving test when you get your drivers' license) that includes gun safety and gun maintenance, but also a mental health evaluation.

Fly kinda hit the head on the nail for me as well. In addition to his statements, I'll add a little more. 150 years ago, we got our meat from either raising cattle/pork or hunting for it. Many of our grand parents went out to the back forty to shoot that nights dinner. Kids tagged along and we're taught how to provide. Therefore they associated guns with the taking of life. They were taught that pulling the trigger had consequences and they knew what those were.

Today, too many kids learn about guns through video games. Or even worse, they don't at all. Accidents then happen out of curiosity. Dad buys a gun he doesn't himself know how to even use. Then he loads it and hides it in the closet. Son then has friend over and takes friend into parents bedroom to show him his dads cool gun. We all know what happens next.

I don't know what the answer is to all this violence, but I don't believe more control is going to fix anything. Statistics prove that. Just look at DC, Chicago or Canada. Then look at Arizona. I do think we need to improve gun education. Maybe require training. Most of these terrible crimes are done by people other than the owners of the guns. Maybe there should be laws requiring gun safes or locking mechanisms. But then I suppose your limiting the ability to have one for self defense. Increase wait times and certainly stop the ability for private to private cash sales without a backround check might help.

Unfortunately none of this will be talked about though. It will be one side screaming for bans and the other demanding the 2nd amendment right. We need common sense solutions that all sides can agree upon instead of politicizing a trajedy.