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Well semi-autos that can kill multiple people quick. WTF needs semi's besides miltary/police!! Oh yah hunters. Look its a family of deer!! Spray em!!

This is pretty crazy:

http://acolumbinesite.com/weapon.html


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I need a semi-automatic assault rifle so i can protect myself and my fellow law-abiding citizens. Bahhh bahhhh bahhh sheep.


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Trance]Pots legal in my state COlorado and Washington. Obama doesnt give a fuck and pot has caused 0 deaths. Not a good ref. Scumbag Steve 4tw shocked


No, it's a good reference. I just don't think you are mentally capable of understanding it.

If you can't keep weed out of the hands of 100 million americans after passing legislation 80 years ago. How are you going to keep guns out of the hands of millions of americans if you pass legislation today?

You just create a new black market for everything made illegal. If you wanted to get meth or crack you could do so in 1 hour. Do you think guns are any different?

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Trance]Pots legal in my state COlorado and Washington. Obama doesnt give a fuck and pot has caused 0 deaths. Not a good ref. Scumbag Steve 4tw shocked


No, it's a good reference. I just don't think you are mentally capable of understanding it.

If you can't keep weed out of the hands of 100 million americans after passing legislation 80 years ago. How are you going to keep guns out of the hands of millions of americans if you pass legislation today?

You just create a new black market for everything made illegal. If you wanted to get meth or crack you could do so in 1 hour. Do you think guns are any different?



Our politics are polar opposite, but I agree with you 100% here Rain.

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Flea I seriously doubt our politics are polor opposite & if we did sit down at a table we would agree 100% on it..

... In my heart of hearts if there were a way to be absolutely done with all fire arm related incident under some sort of "100% gun control policy" that would be something I could go for..

Problem is you simply cannot stop humans ability for 'crazy' ~ Trance the reason why the 'drug ban' is the same arguement is if you do a 'gun ban' or how about an 'alcohol ban' etc. how well does that work? Lets not be stupid T.. you were using 'banned' substances in high school & possibly middle school you are that retarded.. so go ahead & 'ban guns' but crazy will still get em while good, smart people that could stop crazy in its tracks will not be as equiped.

So if you cannot stop other humans from.. well being other humans.. I am for a different kind of "100% gun control policy" in which instead of regulating the thing we actually actively foster the process. Teach & provide every American the proper education that goes into fire arms & their use.. & while you are at it teach people how to drive. This is the same arguement as guns.

If everyone of those teachers on that campus that day was not only armed with their own NON AUTOMATIC FIRE ARM & 4 YEARS OF 'BASIC' G.I. (GOV. ISSUE) FIREARMS TRAINING.. Than that CRAZY MOTHER FUCKER that took out over 20 would have been done by the time he fired off his 2nd round. Thats a fact you couldnt despute with me.

Tell me with the billions spent on car accidents, insurance, etc. that if we put every kid of the next generation into 4~ years of extensive driving training before they are even allowed to hit the public roads it wouldnt have an effect on your bullshit statistics you like to use in arguements? $2donuts it would make a huge difference if everyone had a proper education on how to not drive like a fucking retard.

If humans were ants & could actually work at getting shit done we really can do some amazing shit.. humans dont want to actually work at getting shit done though & as we all know if you give government the control of any system its going to be fuct.

*edit; Yes my child is 12.. unlike Sui & I she will not own her first rifle/firearm at 12 but she definately knows what, how, why, etc. when it comes to fire arms. She is definately zombie apoc ready & she knows to shoot people like you in the dick Trance..


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I don't want to get into it but I feel more can be done with gun control. A outright ban is not the way to go, nor do I think giving more gun rights would help. There should be a healthy balance somewhere, but no matter what you will never solve these issues with just gun control.

My wife works in mental health services. The amount of funding and agencies that have been removed is ridiculous. Most of these people would be managed better if more of these services were still available. Yet the opposite is happening, they are removing more and more of it and allowing insurance companies to block coverage more and more. Shit like this needs to change and until it does more people who could be treated are never going to get the right help.

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Sonya]So, to understand the anti-gun control argument, because we cannot completely prevent an evil, we no longer take measures to mitigate it?




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There are a variety of effective ways to address this.

1. Purchase the guns in major cities, this has been done successfully in several places. Police departments have opened large stands and bought them directly off of the streets.

2. Obama needs to continue investing in border control, he has been good about this to date ( know your facts even if you don't like him ).

3. China has a limit to the amount of ammunition you can own and a variety of other effective measures that are serving them extremely well if you look at the data.

4. We have a TON of veterans here looking for work. Take the money we are wasting overseas and give them fucking law enforcement jobs here. They obviously don't need much training if any. This is my own idea. We are drastically low on cops in many areas. This kills 2 birds with one stone.

5. You don't need a fucking assault rifle to protect your home and family. If you do, you're going to lose that fight anyway. These should be completely off limits to civilians.

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"5. You don't need a fucking assault rifle to protect your home and family. If you do, you're going to lose that fight anyway. These should be completely off limits to civilians."

this makes absolutely no sense at all. have you ever had an assault rifle put in your face? pretty sure i wont lose that fight lololol


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Same rationale, right?

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