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China has had copycat serial slashers about once per year since the 1990's. Guys goto the school with a machete or large knife and try to slice up as many children as possible.

One of these attacks happened the same day our school was attacked in America. 21 children were slashed.

In 2010 China had 6 knife attacks on their school children. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_attacks_in_China_(2010%E2%80%932011)


When the economy goes to shit one of the first places the government cuts funding is Mental Health, because the retards don't vote. Then they go after Juvenile services, because minors don't vote. This 1-2 combination is only going to let more psychopath slip through the cracks.

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Hire military vets with clean mental health backgrounds to protect the schools around the nation. vets get jobs and schools will be safer than having police in them. 2 birds 1 stone. problem solved.

keep your hands off my my AK-47 however.


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Here is something that might rage some of you:



Gotta love the Twatter people

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Godsmak]Here is something that might rage some of you:



Gotta love the Twatter people


People already know how retarded Beiber fans are.

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Sonya]So, to understand the anti-gun control argument, because we cannot completely prevent an evil, we no longer take measures to mitigate it?


Understand that you don't mitigate the problem by taking away law abiding citizens means to defend themselves. Criminals act outside of the law so what will further legislation accomplish?

I remember a statistic (vaguely remember so don't quote me exactly) that in Canada there are more guns per capita than there are in the USA but about 1/20th of the violent gun crimes. I chalk it up to a cultural problem in the USA, again the whole "will" vs. "way" argument.



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Gun control in my mind is avoiding the problem. All due respect to the Americans on this board, but America is a fucked up place with far too many fucked up people prepared to go to these lengths. This shit is becoming commonplace and the method that these nut jobs commit these acts shouldn't be the focus in the aftermath (although it invariably will).

Sadly, gun control is an easy answer, but it doesn't address the reason behind these acts (nor will it stop this sort of thing from happening). I don't have the answers on what is causing it (mental health, media attention, etc are good starting points) but there needs to be some good long discussions on it.

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Yeah Rain, cuts for mental health programs and juvenile crime rehabilitation are surely a big cause of psychopathic killers existing in our society.

Also, somewhat similar to the bieber/ellen tweets:

Dunno' if I can embed twitter feeds in UBB so here is one of the news articles:

http://deadspin.com/5968935/take-that-ni...-night-football

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Sonya]So, to understand the anti-gun control argument, because we cannot completely prevent an evil, we no longer take measures to mitigate it?


Understand that you don't mitigate the problem by taking away law abiding citizens means to defend themselves. Criminals act outside of the law so what will further legislation accomplish?


This misses the point. My question is whether you would support preventative measures that were effective at reducing the occurrence or severity of some attacks, but did not completely eliminate the problem.

Your response was essentially that (1) because criminals act outside the law, they would presumably be able to evade some preventative measures, rendering them ineffective, and/or (2) that there are no possible preventative measures.

But that still does not answer my question. Would you be willing to adopt effective, preventative measures? Or do you believe that there is nothing we can and/or should do to prevent these attacks? The same basic questions apply to the "will" versus the "means" argument.

And I'm just curious. I really don't care one way or the other re: gun control. But I think saying that you treat the "will" and ignore the "means" is similar to saying you don't outlaw driving under the influence -- you treat substance abuse instead. If you want to eliminate or reduce the problem, you do both.

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Trance, a lot of the recommendations in this article already exist in CA. You're limited to one handgun purchase per 30 days here and maximum magazine capacity is 10 rounds, for any gun. I have no idea what our gun violence rates are compared to other states, but I guess comparing us to a state without these laws might be a good start in seeing if they really make a difference.




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Arizona has extremely laxed gun laws same with Nevada and they have far less gun homicides when compared to states like CA.

Louisiana and Maryland have the highest gun homicides in the US.

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