Originally Posted By: [LoD
Vermithrax]That was in Colorado, not California. All the crazy public gun shooters seem to live there.


Colorado and Florida. Guy shot a kid dead for playing his rap music too loud!


Look here Mr./Mrs. Sonya, I know you're all amped up from your verbal victory over Domon yesterday but don't come out quoting me unless you quote me accurately. I said once sentence later that crazy people are everywhere.

Originally Posted By: [LoD
Sonya]
Problem with that logic is that driving recklessly is illegal.


And so is using a firearm unlawfully, as in outside defending yourself. I'm required to obtain a license and training to operate a vehicle. If I choose to operate that vehicle in an unsafe manner I am breaking the law and can be punished. The same is true for buying a gun and getting a CCW. What's your point here?

My point was simply that considering the I'm statistically many MANY times more likely to die in a car accident than from a gunshot wound, I'd be better off saving my fear for something that's more likely to happen. That's all.


Originally Posted By: [LoD
Sonya]
The cool kids say SCOTUS -- Supreme Court of the Unites States.


I'm not a PART of your system.....MAN!!!!

Originally Posted By: [LoD
Sonya]
Judges probably did that to make SCOTUS review it. I think what you might see from SCOTUS is some sort of middleground, where they hold that States have the right to place "good cause" regulations on concealed/open carry permits, but that San Diego's specific policy went too far.


I was wondering if that might have been why. Do they not put their careers at risk (ability to move up) when going so far outside the norms like that? I'm just happy we're seeing change. Obviously this is only my opinion but I'm glad to see that the current method for obtaining a CCW was struck down. It was bullshit.

Originally Posted By: [LoD
Hexen] If you want guns around, you're going to have to accept a certain amount of that. Particularly if guns are sexy and new where you live.


Yea I agree and this is why I am for it. The same can be said with many laws in a free society where you enjoy a lot of individual freedoms and I wish more people understood this concept (not saying you don't Hexen). The more freedoms you're allowed, the more potential for bad guys to exploit those freedoms for criminal purposes.

The right to be free from illegal search and seizure is a great example. It means you don't have to be worried about cops demanding entry to your residence and rifling through your shit just because they want to. This also means your neighbor may have a meth lab in his house but the cops won't be able to check it out without a warrant. Freedoms come at a price.