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Quote from Aliens vs. Predators
I'm trying so hard to bite my tongue here and you have to go and say a thing like that. lol its a good line and very true. I had to quote the source right? lots of lawyers here....
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This went all wall of text on us so lemme just finish this whole fucking debate real quick. I've been in a hundred of them before, and we're only scratching the surface of the tldr potential since we haven't even gotten into dueling sources yet.
Yes, gun laws violate the constitution.
No, nobody cares, and everybody concedes there should be some restrictions.
No, getting rid of guns will not significantly reduce violent crime.
Yes, it will reduce fatalities from violent crime.
Yes, if you restrict it enough you'll create a renaissance in organized crime.
Yes, gun restrictions will help in some places.
No, gun restrictions will not help, and will make things worse, in other places.
No, you cannot make guns go away with laws, it's 19th century technology.
No, there's no such thing as an "assault weapon"
Yes, gun crime and even violent crime statistics are symptoms of bigger issues.
No, rough beat cops, hard boiled detectives, brave and noble soldiers, Christian mothers of 5 beautiful children, and other parties who furiously masturbate to this issue have no special insight into it.
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Hexen]This went all wall of text on us so lemme just finish this whole fucking debate real quick. I've been in a hundred of them before, and we're only scratching the surface of the tldr potential since we haven't even gotten into dueling sources yet.
Yes, gun laws violate the constitution.
No, nobody cares, and everybody concedes there should be some restrictions.
No, getting rid of guns will not significantly reduce violent crime.
Yes, it will reduce fatalities from violent crime.
Yes, if you restrict it enough you'll create a renaissance in organized crime.
Yes, gun restrictions will help in some places.
No, gun restrictions will not help, and will make things worse, in other places.
No, you cannot make guns go away with laws, it's 19th century technology.
No, there's no such thing as an "assault weapon"
Yes, gun crime and even violent crime statistics are symptoms of bigger issues.
No, rough beat cops, hard boiled detectives, brave and noble soldiers, Christian mothers of 5 beautiful children, and other parties who furiously masturbate to this issue have no special insight into it. You forgot to mention that AvP quotes are enlightening & can have significant importance & impact on ones life...
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Only Starship Troopers quotes can have that effect.
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I open carry sometimes...the police here don't even bat an eye at it. Every time I go eat at the local mexican restaurant they are always "why aren't you wearing your gun?" and I say "it's in my car" and they ask me to wear it...This is Oklahoma though, so if I was a black guy who was wearing a gun on my hip the police MIGHT bat an eye. =p
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I open carry sometimes...the police here don't even bat an eye at it. Every time I go eat at the local mexican restaurant they are always "why aren't you wearing your gun?" and I say "it's in my car" and they ask me to wear it...This is Oklahoma though, so if I was a black guy who was wearing a gun on my hip the police MIGHT bat an eye. =p well there's our solution to this whole gun carrying problem, be white. why didn't anyone though of this before? it's so simple yet elegant. pretty sure this proves that the whole would be a better place if everyone was white, we wouldn't have nearly as much violence as we do now.
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As soon as I see the gun I'm drawing down. It takes an average of 3 seconds when reacting to get your gun out. He who makes the first move is most likely going to get at least 2 shots off. If I see a gun and don't know you, I'm not going to risk taking 2 bullets because it's legal to open carry. I'd rather have my gun out to address the threat, and while nothing may come of that I think it would suck for the person that's open carrying. So I disagree that open carry is safer. I think either way, if someone has a gun on them, it's the person that makes the first move that gets the first shots off. Seeing as I don't get paid to mind read, I get paid to react...I would have a much shorter life span. If open carry was legal, you're telling me you'd draw down on every person you approached who was exercising their right to open carry? I can't fathom how that would be acceptable. I think you'd lose your job for excessive force. Sonya] G-Fist]and much like the nazis. . .
Only a matter of time before these guys showed up. Godamn you G-Fist for allowing this thread to be a victim of Godwin's law. Zeke]Carry more guns to the supermarket morons! This will definitely help the state of things. Pay no attention to this man. He's not even MURICAN. His country bought fighter jets from our country with no engines. His argument is invalid. Hexen you are right that nobody's opinion on the issue is more valid than anyone else's. We are all (with the exception of Zeke and Firaxis who are Gaynadians and chimed in for troll's sake) citizen's of this country and therefore all of our opinions/concerns/fears etc have equal validity. That said, I was a bit taken aback by Anti's opinion so on my way back from my appointment this morning I called one of my good buddies who is CHP. His opinion was 180 degrees from Anti's. His exact words were "I think that's great. More people, normal law abiding citizens should carry concealed. There would be less school and mall type shootings." His co-worker who was standing next to him when I called, agreed. This is not a desk jockey. He volunteered to work graveyard shift in Compton right out of the academy. A few years back, there was a fatal shooting of a suspect here in Sacramento who pinned a CHP officer against another car with his car, trying to crush him. My buddy is the one who shot the guy. He's worked the meanest streets this state has to offer. I'm not saying his opinion is any more valid than Anti's, simply that it's clear not all cops who've worked dangerous beats feel the way Anti does. Also Hexen, you are wrong that nobody cares about gun laws. The fact that there is so much heated debate about the issue and conflicting court opinions proves otherwise. If nobody cared, there would be no arguing. I'm more thrilled with the overall idea behind what happened than I am with the specific issue that was decided. I think G-Fist's position on the government is a tad extreme, but several of my friends think the way he does. I think you'd be a fool not to see that our civil liberties in this country have been slowly eroding for decades. I support any decision that overturns statutory law on the basis of constitutionality because it means the judiciary is doing their fucking job. I'm REALLY happy about this one because it started by a group of citizens being fed up with the over-restrictive gun laws in CA and taking a stand. And they won, for now. I'm pretty excited about that.
 
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I open carry sometimes...the police here don't even bat an eye at it. Every time I go eat at the local mexican restaurant they are always "why aren't you wearing your gun?" and I say "it's in my car" and they ask me to wear it...This is Oklahoma though, so if I was a black guy who was wearing a gun on my hip the police MIGHT bat an eye. =p well there's our solution to this whole gun carrying problem, be white. why didn't anyone though of this before? it's so simple yet elegant. pretty sure this proves that the whole would be a better place if everyone was white, we wouldn't have nearly as much violence as we do now. "I'm not saying white people are better. I'm saying being white is CLEARLY better. I mean who could even argue?" - Louis C.K.
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Obs]That is awesome news, i feel much more safe now knowing that the highly intelligent californians i drive with in the morning are now carrying hidden weapons. Too funny LoL
It is in the end what ever the hell I want it to be. When I am through with it, it will blow a hole this wide into the own world's idea of itself. They are throwing bottles at your house; come on, lets go break their arms.
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