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I was just quoting the video in the OP. :P

But yea I hear ya. I worked my ass off to get where I am at. Don't even get me started on seeing people in line at the grocery store buying steaks on the EBT card while I was a broke student barely affording ground beef.

and Obamacare is not 100% bad. Implementation is awful, access is awful, costs are horrible to the Government and its creates more taxes to pay for handout healthcare for those who would rather game the system than provide for themselves.

The American dream is not anything other than the freedom to work hard and earn your way to the lifestyle you imagine as "comfortable and free".

Long term social gifts for under or unemployed is a fiscal mistake in mega proportions, and kills the above.

Sometimes the American dream is simply the ability to provide more for your family than what you were provided. It doesn't mean a life of ultimate wealth.

If we had more families, and less children born out of selfishness, the world would be a better place.

You don't need to be a bible thumping fool to understand this.

But doesn't everything after "Obamacare is not 100% bad." show that it is, in fact, really bad? I mean you could go as far as to say that it is the merging of corporate and government otherwise known as corporate fascism. Its pretty clear who wrote the law..

The biggest welfare queens on my block go by the names of Walmart, Verizon and McDonalds.

This is also 100% true

our government is legit why are you guys second guessing them?

believe in the government!

Nope. Access for all Americans is positive and it can be done the right way. Like drug testing for access. Real measured requirements for assistance financially. Like education demands for Welfare recipients.

Unfortunately we can not control these things. Government caters to votes, and nothing gets votes like handouts to citizens who wants something for nothing.

Well yeah i mean getting everyone healthcare is a noble cause but that's not the purpose of the ACA. All the best analysts pretty much universally agree that there is still going to be 30 million uninsured. This was a government induced takeover of the healthcare in America and that limits/regulates competition. Any time competition is limited or destroyed and the government starts picking who gets what from whom you've effectively destroyed capitalism. Limiting competition has been shown to always raise costs because shit becomes a monopoly and they can charge whatever they want. My wife's healthcare went up by about 33% and we are by no means wealthy.

pretty much this.

"Healthcare is a necessity, so it's morally wrong for people to profit off of it."

"Seriously, do you even Econ, bro? The fact that health care is a necessity makes it ever the more important that the profit incentive exists to allocate capital and fund innovation. Profit is exactly what is needed to bring about the competition that facilitates better quality and lower prices. It is what gives talented physicians a reward for providing essential services to other human beings.

There are many problems with health care in the United States; most of them are brought about by government. The profit motive is not the culprit here"

In order for the ACA to be a success all it has to do is work better then our current system. How people can distrust government but then praise free market capitalism is beyond me.