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Finally, & no the government wouldn't be accountable to anyone other than THOSE WITH THE MONEY.. those corporations that fund individuals/groups in their grab for power that make all of these things possible.

Example (outside of health care to keep it in context); There is a reason why General Electric doesn't pay taxes yet makes BILLIONS.. I will let you try and figure it out



I struggled internally with this concept for a long time. The imbalance of power and wealth in the U.S. seems really unfair and shitty at a casual glance. But then in my mid 20's I read the book Atlas Shrugged and my views changed a little bit. Without the brilliant albeit economically ruthless minds that built this country, I wouldn't be living a life that the 80% of the global population is envious of. Everyone's perception is their own reality, so we make big deals out of dumb shit in this country when a vast majority of the world population struggles to get enough to eat every day. In summary, I'm thankful to the ruthless assholes that made all this possible for me and mine.




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To put it in perspective for you:

http://www.globalissues.org/article/26/poverty-facts-and-stats

In the amount of time it took us self-centered, spoiled, Westerners to type up all these WOT over our seemingly HUGE issues of what type of health care we have, thousands of kids died as a result of being poor. Not trying to jump on a soapbox or anything, just saying it's funny how trivial our problems and arguments are really when you think on a global scale about what the real problems of humanity are.




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Originally Posted By: [LoD
Vermithrax]To put it in perspective for you:

http://www.globalissues.org/article/26/poverty-facts-and-stats

In the amount of time it took us self-centered, spoiled, Westerners to type up all these WOT over our seemingly HUGE issues of what type of health care we have, thousands of kids died as a result of being poor. Not trying to jump on a soapbox or anything, just saying it's funny how trivial our problems and arguments are really when you think on a global scale about what the real problems of humanity are.


Someone's a Debbie fucking Downer....

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Cant do good in the world without all the self-centered motivation for financial gain and the technological advancements that are bore out of it. But, once those advancements are made through entrepreneurship and FREE MARKET competition those advancements help all mankind.

If we fall or default on our debt or go under as a nation due to shit like the ACA and other ludicrous policy nobody wins. The corporations just move and the US citizen gets fucked. It just so happens that we are the biggest winners in history, for now.

over population and unsustainable parts of the world with too many people living in that region is a whole other topic.

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Here's something to toss on the fire. Kind of off topic, but I piqued my interest when I heard it.

Sweden (I think it's Sweden, could be wrong) is looking at passing a bill that would make all corporations have to adopt a policy of paying their CEOs no more than 12 times their lowest paid employee.

Now I think it's an awesome idea and I hope to hell they do NOT pass it. This would drive Swedish companies out of the country. BUT, it would be something a group like the UN could pass and force all member countries to participate.

Thoughts?

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Most CEOs big money doesn't come from Salary, go look at those guys that pay themselves only $1. The real money comes from shares.



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Hmm, good point. Not sure if this issue was addressed or not in the proposal.

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Someone's a Debbie fucking Downer....






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Lol, Firaxis is destroying you two. This whole - the Government is running our lives! attack is utter bullshit. You keep repeating it like some slogan, but I'm willing to bet you couldn't even articulate what that slogan actually means. It's just random conservative talking points with unsubstantiated anecdotal stories.

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