Mofo Fly]Problem with that theory is as soon as you do that..
No American will want to play/be the doctor any longer.. the "American Way" is the "best" but not without faults or exploitation.. everything comes down to the ability to make money
You take away the 'money' & people will simply not do it.. sad to say humans are not ants that work entirely for the hive mentality of pushing them selves to the top as a whole. Meaning, once the money is gone from the system, than any true advancements in it will be gone.
Show me a list of great medical achievements to come out of countries that have socialized health care.. go ahead & put together a list as best as you possibly can of world achievements in the medical world. I will bet that just UCLA Med ALONE will smash the world list of great achievements... Also I would like for you to footnote every single 'world' advancement that was based on the US already 'paving the way' - Again, I will bet dollars to donuts that just about anything anyone else has 'done' actually 'started' here in the US.
First off, not true. I don't know if you watched the video of the Canadian 'owning' the US senate, but this is what it was about. There is no brain drain to the US in the medical field. Innovation does not occur in the US alone. As for the list, I'm not Google. You can do it yourself, but off the top of my head the Polio vaccine, T-cell identification and rickets treatment. Maybe UCLA can smash the record, but I would argue this is because UCLA is a world leader in research and has a ton of funding from WHO. Not because of a free market health care system.
Mofo Fly] Unfortunately, GFist is right & this had NOTHING to do with healthcare itself & had EVERYTHING to do with the Government now being in control of one of the major aspects of our lives. If you think otherwise you are the sheep in the case & actually believe that there is a 'left vs right' or 'dems vs reps' thing going on here.
That's actually what the whole discussion is about. At least from my stand point. I didn't really want to get involved in this because the American way of thinking is something that makes me a bit uncomfortable and I feel it's bad form to talk about someone elses' way of life. Once the Canada angle was brought up and questions were raised, I wanted to add the pros and cons of that. The overlying question I still have is if government is not used as an accountable regulator for things like health care (which I feel should be considered a necessity, not a privilege), what is it there for?
Mofo Fly] Wrong & I am not a conspiracy theorist - the American '2 party' system has been exploited for the last 100 years by a '3rd party' pitting the '2 parties' against each other & playing the public for fools. The 3rd party.. eleetists.. progressives.. whatever the fuck you want to call them.. does not give a fuck about America, Republicans, Democrats, etc. They will do everything in their power to achieve their goal & they easily use the '2 party' system against the public to accomplish this.
To give you a hint.. Bush, McCain, Obama, Clinton etc. are all part of this 3rd party - they may label them selves as 'Republicans' or 'Democrats' or whatever they need to call them selves for that moment as they push for power.. but at the end of the day they will all call themselves 'progressives' & all work for that 'progressive' NWO goal..
Shit may take a long time for them to get there.. but they have a plan guys & it doesn't matter to them that it may take generations to accomplish.. Margaret Sanger set out to EXTERMINATE entire races of man nearly 100 years ago.. Now really look at & see what Planned Parenthood has done since...
Backing away slowly, not making eye contact.
Mofo Fly] I know we are smart people here & I really don't have to explain to you why the African American is 'slowly dieing off' - Just look at their numbers for the last 100 years & you can see it.. oh hell just look at the only people still dieing from AIDS/HIV in America.. the only 'people' that are still 'actually' 'affected' by HIV/AIDS is the African American population............... why?
Um, what? All I see is growth in numbers for the last 100 years. Credible source? And the reason they are still 'actually' 'affected' by HIV/AIDS is because poverty is prevalent in the community and they are part of a system that advocates financial stability as a necessity for health care.
