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LOL,

ill just leave this here and then walk away from this thread.

Ex-CBO Director Douglas Holtz-Eakin estimated that after stripping out all the “gimmicks and budgetary games,” a more realistic estimate is that the ACA would add roughly $500 billion to the deficit in its first 10 years and about $2 trillion in its first two decades. "The new CBO figures do not appreciably alter this conclusion. The current-law estimates of the impact of the ACA are dead wrong. Informed Americans should not be fooled by claims that the ACA offers deficit reduction."

This guy ran the CBO.


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Douglas Holtz-Eakin runs a conservative think tank. Of course he is going to discredit the ACA, that is his job.



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I actually agree with fly. Mental health is theost underfunded part of health care and sptoms often go ignored or misdiagnosed for long periods of time.

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Want some Dynastic Thinking asshole.. here is some on a world wide level


The Moors will have taken over France in just 3 more generations

You guys thought the Crusades ended over 1000 years ago.. BUT THEM DYNASTIC THINKERS.. those waging war against you (without you even knowing you are at war) never stopped fighting the Crusades.

In no more than 3 Generations there will be less actual 'French' (tribal - FRANKS!) living in France than others.. with the primary being the Moors (maybe not by actual raw numbers when compared to the total raw numbers of everyone else.. but they will certainly be the biggest individual ball of people)

You see the French (just like us & others) didn't want to actually do the work themselves so they started bringing in the labor.. & look at who happens to willingly provide this labor force.. the moors.. who will then when they out number their 'masters' will play their 'masters' game against them. They will have taken France as they set out to do.. they will do it 'silently' without blasting off shots & using bombs.. they will have moved into the country & as the primary work force for the country they have the ability to drive it.. into their direction or into the ground if their direction doesn't work out. Meanwhile.. Sonya's of the world go 'oh no way I see it on the map.. its France.. its got French people & the French will always be in control of France'

Yeah & the Romans thought they would be Roman empire forever.. sure the Italians & Italy are still here after the fall of the empire.. but the Italians didn't have anyone systematically waging war against them & certainly they didn't have anyone come up with a 200+ year plan against them.. Those that are willing to wage Jihad on a mother fucker.. yeah they are willing to take 200+ years to get a job done

Spain is on the same coarse.. I would say the Moors will outnumber the Spanish in about the same time & in the same manner that they will have taken France.. several of the other European countries will be much harder to fall.. but those 2 are already being picked a part & will be under Moor control (likely during my time to see it happen & say I told you so)

I can continue but no one wants to touch my stuff.. I'm the crazy one..

Oh do you need me to fact check this for you? Need me to google search & post the demographics for you come to the same logical conclusions as me?

I thought that was half the fun of interweb debates..


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Firaxis]I actually agree with fly. Mental health is theost underfunded part of health care and sptoms often go ignored or misdiagnosed for long periods of time.


I remember about 8 years ago the San Diego County Sheriff claimed that the county jail was the largest mental health institution in the County. And he was probably right.

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The girl I am dating right now is corrections officer and currently works intake for Placer County jail. She would certainly agree that the jails house more mentally ill people than the looney bins do. Not to spark another huge debate, but it's pretty sad when inmates enjoy more medical services (because they're free) than the average lower middle class person.




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To be funny.. I did exactly what was requested when it comes to this

I used ACTUAL facts to make an argument.. not made up stuff

I even posted all the simple math for everyone & you cannot argue the math.. you can do it with your own calculator.. hell you can even scale up my numbers further than my already over estimations.. make everyones coffins bigger.. add 5 billion more people to the planet.. etc.

My math checks out & you cant fight it.. "over population" is as much of a joke as global warming - yet another path for control over others

PS. Ants do outweigh us - though it would be impossible to give a hard fact on it..

fact check me fact check me


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Vermithrax]The girl I am dating right now is corrections officer and currently works intake for Placer County jail.


Oooh, Placer County had some hot correctional officers if I recall. And Rocklin PD had one super, super hot cop. Stockton PD has one or two as well -- every time I see those cases I make the DA set them from a prelim!

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I even posted all the simple math for everyone & you cannot argue the math.. you can do it with your own calculator.. hell you can even scale up my numbers further than my already over estimations.. make everyones coffins bigger.. add 5 billion more people to the planet.. etc.

My math checks out & you cant fight it.. "over population" is as much of a joke as global warming - yet another path for control over others

fact check me fact check me


I was going to leave this alone....but you brought it up again. What are you even arguing here? That's there's enough space for more human bodies to take up? Ummm....okay?

Over population refers to a LACK OF RESOURCES and INABILITY TO ELIMINATE WASTE PROPERLY, not a lack of space for human beings to fit their bodies into.....The human population grows at an exponential rate. Are you actually going to sit here and argue that the earth can sustain an infinite number of human beings? That 2nd grade project is about what I'd expect a 2nd grader to say when confronted with over population. A more worthwhile mathematical assessment would be to figure out how much land 1 person would need to be self-sustaining with the current technology. You know, grow their own veggies, raise their own livestock, and be able to eliminate their waste without making their own land toxic. Then divide the total above water land available in the world and you'd probably get a fairly accurate estimate of how many people the world could actually sustain.

How you could even use that enormous load of crap as an argument that over population is a myth almost makes my brain explode Fly.

There is absolutely a finite number of human beings this planet could adequately support, meaning they get proper nutrition, shelter, fresh water, etc. How many people that actually is I have no idea but basic common sense would indicate that there is a maximum threshold.

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Republican governors have blocked Medicaid expansion and that leaves 3.7 million people with severe mental illness and substance abuse problems without any form of assistance. This should be unacceptable for anyone who has any semblance of a soul.



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