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She's a solid 8. I don't usually date 10's because it's so fucking difficult to find one in my age range that's single and actually has any substance to their personality. I'll happily bang a 10 but if she annoys me every time she opens her mouth outside of giving a BJ, then I won't be spending much time with her.

I'll text you her pic.

Fly-Are you saying in the future the Moors are going to turn the people of France into cantaloupes? Interesting theory.

Actually that's the point & thank you for bringing it back - the concept that there isn't enough food, water, shelter, ability to handle things such as waste, energy, etc. is a fucking joke

This world was given to us with UNLIMITED capabilities to make it happen.. MANKIND ITSELF DOESNT WANT IT TO BE SO.. because if it was "TRUE" that we do truly have UNLIMITED RESOURCES than there would be no reason to "KEEP SCORE" if you will.. Human Nature is to enslave your neighbor & their children so you don't have to do shit.. Human Nature wants "OVERPOPULATION" & "LIMITED RESOURCES" to be true so that they have an excuse to enslave their neighbor.

I have said it before but I have to beat it in sometimes.. we are not ants & do not work for the singular purpose for the better of our species ;

Example - if we were Ants & every human worked as its goal to promote humanity as its #1 purpose.. we could look at a place like SFV where I live & go..............

That plot of dirt right there.. instead of it being used as additional housing space for those that live in Los Angeles.. should have been used for Farming/Agriculture. See it is known that this plot of dirt right here could feed our entire nation if it was dedicated to do so.. but its not & wont ever be.. but if it was think about that for a moment.. I took this plot of dirt over here & said hey all of the US gets to live off it.. leaving all other current dirt we use to go to feeding the rest of the world.. magically a lot of 'food' problems go away.. Humans working like Ants to make sure Humans are the #1.. now expand scale of said activities & we are on to something.

Funny thing man - god put shit on this planet to make sure his people do not starve.. now its still up to his people to make sure his people don't actually starve..

Example - do you have any idea of the absolute TONAGE of food that is wasted out of grocers every day across our nation alone? All food from grocers ends up in the trash bin & never makes it to another humans stomach.. just because of the potential of the grocer being sued in the event that the food causes something to happen to someone.. that is mankind tossing food away instead of feeding mankind because we are afraid of mankind coming after mankind.. do you see that stupid logic there?

Example - do you have any idea of the absolute TONAGE of food that is literally running rampant in Texas right now? No joke Texas could literally feed the world over several times just based on its wild boar population.. & those boars are fucking special too now that they have been cross-breed. They now come with extra sets of ribs & extra poundage.. they can breed 3 times a year, decent sized litters, & grow exponentially fast compared to other sources of meat. Yeah my Muslim/Jewish friends may not like the idea of eating pig... but when it comes to mankind taking care of mankind to be sure that mankind isn't starving.

Further - when was the last time you took a flight over the US at night time.. see all that fucking black space..

Space is not an issue & providing shelter is not an issue..

If we really wanted to feed everyone we could..

If you want to say energy could be an issue (sure to a point) but even that could be fixed should we humans want to actually fix it as humans.. there really is unlimited energy out there if we want it

Resources is not the issue & if you think that you are just silly lol.. seriously fucking silly.

Really it comes down to how humans default to their human nature to control other humans using the resources..

Example - Haiti & the Dominican Republic

http://tazmpictures.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/haiti-border.gif

Tell me what you see... I see the same fucking island... but one half of it is a beautiful Caribbean Island & on the other half... well yeah.. that's fucking Haiti right there.....



Fact is Vermi.. god provided us a planet with UNLIMITED resources for energy, food, shelter, etc. etc. etc. & you cannot prove me wrong. There really is limitless food, water, shelter, etc.

Now yeah sure.. you want to argue you cant support 30 million people in the middle of the Sahara Desert.. yeah ok you got me.. but we shouldn't be sending people in the Sahara Desert food/water.. we should be sending them U-Haul trucks so they could get the fuck out of the Sahara Desert & into a position that they could actually provide themselves food/water.

What we do with our planet is on us - & frankly we are stupid about how we go about it.. mostly because I feel that we are not DYNASTIC THINKERS & only go about our lives in a manner that gets us that new Lexus in the driveway.

You cannot say its because its a lack of resources & over population.. its entirely the fact that we want the Lexus in our driveway & want our neighbor to have no fucking driveway because he is a stupid son of a bitch & his children should be doing my kids laundry

Dude.....all I can really say is, no wonder you sponsored G-Fist....

First off, this does not work for me:

"f you want to say energy could be an issue (sure to a point) but even that could be fixed should we humans want to actually fix it as humans.. there really is unlimited energy out there if we want it

Resources is not the issue & if you think that you are just silly lol.. seriously fucking silly."

Do you even realize what you just did right there? You just made a sweeping statement that energy is a non-issue because if humans wanted to fix it, we could. You essentially alluded to the fact there is some mysterious form of infinite energy out there that we can find "if we want to". Then in you're next sentence you tell me I'm silly for believing there's not a limited supply of resources. How exactly do you explain black outs and brown outs then? Do you also believe in magic Fly? Well of course you do because you also mentioned the magic man in the sky several times as well.

Here Fly:

1. Article on the Ogallala Aquifer. http://www.kansascity.com/2013/09/01/4452173/the-ogallala-aquifer-an-important.html

2. Government website with studies done on the decline of said aquifer if you don't want to rely on that article. http://ne.water.usgs.gov/ogw/hpwlms/

In case you didn't know, fresh water is a necessity for human and plant life and there is a limited supply of it. By limited I mean rainwater only replenishes underground water sources at specific rate and if you leech the water out of those sources before it refills, you have effectively made that water a non-renewable resource. I hate to tell you but possibilities don't water crops and magic doesn't make garbage and other waste go poof.

Speaking of, you didn't even address my point about waste. Humans produce garbage and waste. And a fucking lot of it. Are you aware of how many tons of garbage are in the ocean right now? Waste disposal is just as important as resource consumption. In the words of your own initiate, do you even biology bro? Do you know how beer is made? Even at the micro organism level, once a creature can no longer dispose of its waste without toxifying its environment, it's a dead man walking.

If I am going to continue this discussion with you, you're going to have to stop making really dumb statements like the above and continuing with weird analogies and anecdotal references.

Can you even provide one credible source to back up anything you just said about energy and resources being infinite? Do you have anything at all to say about waste disposal as it relates to a maximum human population on this planet? Bill Nye would slap you silly if he read what you wrote. There absolutely is a finite amount of resources on this planet. It's a scientific fact. To argue otherwise borders on insanity or complete and total ignorance.

Did you smoke a lot of weed today or something?

I just wanted to post in a legendary thread. Carry on.

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You asked for it Vermi.. you now have to read all of it & I will explain it to you



ON ENERGY

First - if we want it we could have it.. but we are too busy playing control issues with each other to get it.

Fast & short answer.. America could solve its 'energy' issues by going nuclear.. people don't 'like it' but hell if the French can figure it out.. well... Oh I know its better to have guys still mining/burning coal/oil products because its totally cheaper (definitely not safer or cleaner or anything other than cheaper but ok...)

Now lets not go down that route for a moment & lets just talk about a shitty little country like Haiti that is an island country with very limited natural resources.. & they couldn't support a nuclear power plant so how could they get their unlimited energy (actually it could support a power plant & especially if mankind worked about bringing mankind up.. but lets pretend for a moment that they cant because you have a silly concept of we humans cant)

In this case.. natural energy is the way to go.. I know so simple & stupid.. but it works... now how 'effectively' each natural energy source works is based ENTIRELY on compressions against each other as energy sources. So if you stop & remove that.. get back to the big picture of humans caring for humans.. & it just comes down to making sure humans have unlimited energy... than natural sources of energy are enough to provide unlimited energy. Just take the economics/politics/government out of the energy thing.. & viola "magically" yes there could be unlimited energy for all.

So again, sounds stupid but, natural energy sources & start with Solar. Solar works but lets stop to see what actually holds us back from it.. purely the $$$$$ economic factor.. but again if we were like ants & stopped trying to enslave our neighbor.. than economics goes out the window leaving us humans here to simply provide energy for all of human kind.. so yes it can be done & with 0 issues.

Wind.. same issue.. take away the $$$$$ aspect of it.. you got more clean, free, natural, LIMITLESS energy for people to do shit..

Wave energy.. take the water wheel as you know it & flip it 90 degrees.. change the wheel shape so that it is basically a boat prop for your imagination.. now string these boat props in a series strung together along on a central drive shaft that is incased in a tube. Now place this tube full of water wheels in the water.. as water moves it turns the series of boat props.. as the series of boat props turn they turn their planetary gears & the main drive shaft which could then be jacked into a dynamo.. & ta da more clean, free, natural, energy.. 0 impact on the environment.. produces 24/7 energy as the oceans/waters move & is subject to no other issues than..

But imagine for a moment if mankind had the ability to farm unlimited energy off its oceans.. but well that means my coal mine.. my power plant.. my whatever that I use to control my neighbors is out the fucking window.. we cant have that..

I am not in the business of providing cheap cellular service to all.. I am in the business of working with my other cellular providers to gouge the fuck out of you............

Take the economics out of energy.. yup there is unlimited energy for all of the world.. if you want I can explain another 6 methods for clean, natural energy, that even a borderline retarded mouth breathing nignog out of Haiti could figure it out..



ON WATER

Yes, I can even resolve the fresh water situation for you.. in the military they train you on how to get water from nothing & several of the ways to do it.. in fact how do you think desert countries such as Israel seem to be able to support their populations & their water needs? Clearly it must be fucking magic

Want me to spoon feed it to you like you're fucking clueless that cant come up with simple things such as the wave energy idea I just gave.. I mean if I really have to explain to you how to get everyone water I can & will.. if you cant figure it out yourself you are not thinking about it too hard. This shit isn't complex.. hard... or impossible.. they are all choices we humans make & we make them based entirely on our human nature to enslave the neighbor.

I'll give you a hint on a reoccurring theme.. what's one of the easiest ways to control my neighbor? WATER!!@#!@#!!! DUH !@#!@#!@#!@@#!@# & IF I COULD FIND A WAY TO CONTROL YOUR OXYGEN I WOULD DO THAT TOO........ its all about control


Here; on Haiti again.. as its an example of what humans can do when they are in control.. half of the island is picture perfect.. the other half of the island is still waiting on handouts for the hurricane years ago.. a hurricane that hit both sides of the island along with several other islands in the area.. yet only Haiti was the one screaming & still screaming for handouts. Its all about what humans do with what they have..



ON FOOD

Already addressed in my first post.. yes I could feed the fucking world man & there is no reason we shouldn't be.. except oh wait yes there is a reason why we are not making sure everyone in the world goes without hunger.. its human nature to control my neighbor & through his stomach is a great way of doing it... keynote here is now that you know that there really is unlimited energy if we stop being whacky about it.. using unlimited energy you can grow/produce unlimited food. If you would like a step by step process of how that works I can pop into MS paint & draw one up for you.



ON WASTE

Do you really want to get me started on waste?

That's a human choice on how we handle our waste as humans.. LA used to be this crazy place that you couldn't see through the smog.. now its still desert haze (its a fucking desert lets be real) but no smog. Vegas on the other hand.. look at Vegas... or hell look at China & how they are handling things on their end... ugh!

Waste & how it is managed are all HUMAN CHOICES.. this isn't the planet making these choices for us saying 'oh no human you can only do it this way because I am the planet' -

no bro.. we the humans make the choice of manufacturing 129083190283091850912858 plastic water bottles a year & where they go after that.. we the humans make the choice of manufacturing & using 1283901289481902850918509815 disposable diapers a year & where they go after that.. we the humans make the choice of creating nuclear waste & where it goes.. etc. etc. etc.

We can make the choice as humans to continue to use disposable plastic bags at the grocery store.. or we can chose to use the reusable bags while at the grocer..

READ MY FUCKING WORDS & LET THEM SIT IN

WE MAKE THE FUCKING CHOICES WE MAKE.. NOT THE PLANET..

WE HUMANS.. & AGAIN WE MAKE STUPID FUCKING CHOICES BECAUSE
1) WE DONT THINK DYNASTICALLY ABOUT OUR FUTURE
and or
2) WE WANT TO ENSLAVE OUR NEIGHBORS SO WE DONT HAVE TO DO SHIT.. REMEMBER THIS SHIT HEAD.. ITS NOT "OUR" UTOPIA.. ITS "MINE" & NOW GET TO BRINGING ME MY FOOD NAIVE!
and or
*) We are like Vermi & attempt to step into the ring thinking we know shit about the fucking world but in reality we are actually clueless.. just another fucking sheep that follows some other asshole's asshole.. because I was told so by an 'expert' that it cant be done.. yeah looks like that 'expert' just got control over you & got you do to exactly what that expert wanted you to do.. think about it for a moment & let it truly sink in

Now lets just get on the poo/pee aspect as you say waste like "omg" this is some daunting task for humankind to deal with their own piss & shit... So before you or I make you look stupid about how to handle our own waste products like any other animal on this planet does.. I will just ask you to think about.. How do the astronauts do it? How do they do it on a nuclear submarine that stays underwater for MONTHS at a time? etc.

How? how? how?.. this has to be some sort of magical process that I just cannot seem to fathom how Humans could possibly handle Human piss/shit in an effective way.. piss/shit is daunting & it clearly cannot be handled........ wait bro do you not have water in your area that is free of piss & shit? Waaaaaait bro.. how do those guys in the desert do it & not get piss/shit into their water that I thought doesn't exist because they are in the desert?

Would it be cheating if we go back to.. the 'if we were ants & cared about making ants #1' Take away the economics/politics behind energy & we could have unlimited energy.. with unlimited energy I could grow food anywhere.. run sewage/water treatment anywhere.. etc. etc. etc. TBH I don't need to cheat but do you really need for me to explain to you how we as humans could manage our own waste better? Please type it out so I can quote it later.. "Fly please explain to me because I cannot for the life of me figure out how Humans could possibly handle their waste issues"

Oh I will just fucking save it for you - I just showed you how I could take 8 billion humans, each in their own 125+ square foot coffins, & hide all of man kind that has ever lived. Do you think I couldn't figure out a way to handle all of humanities fecal matter?


Bill Nye would laugh at you because you forgot ;
Matter is neither created nor destroyed.. it can only change forms.. think about that long & hard as a silly human. Oh did you know that as our big blue ball flies through space it only continues to gather more & more 'Matter' - its kind of cool actually.. God really did set this place up to be unlimited for us humans... it really does come down to Humans being Humans though

Yes Vermi, if we CHOSE to use our planet better we could have unlimited energy for all of mankind.. no one would ever be without the energy to do whatever it is they chose. With unlimited energy we have the ability to accomplish.. & I mean ANYTHING - you are talking to a mother fucker that if it wasn't for the 'dark ages' I'm of the kind of mind that would already have man kind out past Saturn & grinding the asteroid belt for even more materials

Yes Vermi, if we CHOSE to use our planet better we could have food & water for all of mankind.. no one would ever be without food/water. This goes against human nature in that it should be your dumb ass bringing me my bowl of grapes.. don't forget to skin them first.. I don't like grape skins on my grapes naïve.





One final note because it struck home with me - you mentioned all that waste out in our oceans... I want it & in fact I want it to get bigger/more (now youre thinking I am crazy but that's because I am) See - I could use all of that floating debris to create floating super structures.. concrete boxes filled with all that floating trash, water bottles, etc. & then all its gaps filled with expandable foam.. they will float, be indestructible, easily strung together to form floating structures... ask me what I would do with floating cities made from basically recycled trash materials.. oh the possibilities.

Imagine Pug's reef with a floating city just over it.. yup I can make it possible & I can do it using the trash of the ocean.. thanks for playing

Fly, you completely lack any form of understanding of basic science. Or logic. Or contradiction.

I will choose one of your last points, the one about harvesting the floating debris island in the Pacific to form superstructures to continue to house humans. Ever heard of photosynthesis? Blocking out that much sunlight would turn the oceans into underwater deserts. This would cause catastrophic damage to the food chain alone and kill off much of the marine life in very short time. This chain reaction would then spread across the worlds oceans, because the marine biosphere is connected like that. All of this damage would be irreversible.

Not surprised to hear this coming from someone who doesn't believe in global warming....

Dude...in that entire wall of opinionated text you still didn't link one credible source to back up what you said.

I'm making a UO PK vid right now so I don't have time to go point for point on you but for starters, how do you even know if the energy used to produce solar panels or other forms of "clean" power is worth it? By worth it, I mean a simple matter of math. How long would that piece of equipment have to be in place in order to recoup the money and energy that was used to create it? Solar panels don't come out of thin air. Metal has to be mined, smelted and formed. Glass has to be made. Workers in plant using machines have to assemble the panels, etc. How do you know these sources of clean energy are viable on a large scale? How many cities could your turbine idea support? What I see is a bunch of stoner garble completely unsupported my any hard data at all.

Secondly, you still missed the point of waste management Fly. There will be a point in the future, based on today's technology, whatever that point is in terms of number of human beings on the planet, when we produce refuse and waste faster than it can decompose/be buried/be cleaned (sewage), etc. So the REAL hope is that we can develop technology to speed that process up or neutralize waste faster/better before we reach that point of critical mass.

I'm kinda done arguing this point with you. The very notion that our planet can support an unlimited number of human beings is sheer fantasy. Find me one scholarly journal or trusted scientific source that supports this absurd notion, please. I guarantee you that you cannot because your premise makes no logical sense whatsoever.

Thank you. A fucking men