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No fly, you can't. It is not economically, scientifically or socially feasible.
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LOL!
I was playing loadout until 3:00~ something AM - which is my typical log out time (everyone knows this) but then I saw Vermi backed himself out after I called his shit a bunch of conspiracy bullshit used against any/all nations peoples to establish powers over them.
I then decided 'ok I'll play their game & I will use Vermi's references against him..'
Vermi posted 2 articles on "OVERPOPULATION" - where if one actually took the time to each article, you would have found each one contradicted the other article's facts & biases for their arguments. The only point that was actually the same in both of these articles is that
"at 'x' population point at 'x' year, the human population will not be able to sustain itself for 'x' reason"
All 'credible' sources.. If you want to call them that... stop for a second here; remember anyone that is PAID to have an opinion on a matter should be completely discounted.. if Gfist cant use Fox news as his source of 'facts' because they are obviously biased.. what makes it ok for the other side to do it aswell.. another argument on debates for later.. Anyways
- All credible sources in Vermi's articles had different numbers, stats, base line 'facts', etc. that lead them to their opinion that OVERPOPULATION is an actual possibility that will happen. None of his 'experts' actually agree on anything other than the "OVERPOPULATION" part & that it will eventually happen at some point or another.
In fact when you really get into Vermi's articles they even break down previous sources of this same bullshit.. Referencing another 'credible' scientist from the 70s with his own set of numbers, facts, bullshit, that have him saying this stuff.. & it goes all the way back to another in the late 1700s with his own set of numbers, facts, bullshit, that have him saying this stuff.. etc.
In Vermi's articles I count no less than 5 'experts' on the subject matter.. NONE of the experts numbers, figures, data, whatever, actually match up with one another.. they all just use whatever it is they have available during their timeframe to make their argument for OVERPOPULATION.
Things I absolutely loved about Vermi's articles..
First, is that one of these 'experts' - Population Biologist Joel Cohen of Columbia University goes on to state "In truth, no one knows when or at what level peak population will be reached" Cohen told Life's Little Mysteries. Of all of the 'experts' he is the only one that makes sense. Yet all the other 'experts' each have their own 'it will happen in 'x' year'.. 'it will happen at 'x' population level'.. 'it will happen for 'x' reason' - Yet Joel Cohen seems to actually get it..
See the 'expert' from the 1970's wouldn't get a concept like ; all of mankind eventually moving away from solid foods & we would all be on a 'super slushy nutrient filled milk shake diet' (or an IV.. or a pill.. etc.) packed with everything we need to survive/thrive. See the guy from the 1970s wouldn't understand that the tech would carry us so far to the point that we wouldn't need solid foods to sustain our populations as he imagines us needing all of this land for farming/live stock.
Next, I like the article from 1992 as it actually had the most FACTS in it.. but really those 'FACTS' were not 'FACTS' at all.. just projections of numbers/statistics based off the BABY BOOM GENERATIONS. Now for the cool part here.. the guy from the 1970s uses the baby boom generation to get his numbers/stats to make his argument.. the guy from the 1990s also uses the baby boom generation to get his numbers/stats to make his argument.. but their numbers, facts, figures, do not match up at all. The reason being that 20 years later A LOT HAS CHANGED.. which you can then easily see during the jump from the 1992 article to the 2011 article.. 20 years later A LOT HAS CHANGED..
I mean consider this for a moment.. the guy talking out his as in 1992 using his bullshit facts/figures.. Imagine you could go back in time & you tried to sit down with him back in 1992 just to attempt to explain to him the world wide web. I will tell you a guy that wants you to kill your baby will likely get out the burning pitch forks for attempting to explain blasphemy such as the world wide web.. seriously consider that the concept of the internet would be out of that guys grasp at the time of his article. This expert would have no idea the level of tech boom that was about to happen in his next 20 years..
Just the same.. look at us after the past 20 years.. Do you really think that in 20 years from now this dumb bitch & her article from 2011 is going to carry any weight/validity? Bro your cellphone has more tech in it than NASA had when putting man on the moon. Do you see where I am going with this?
NO, please.. take some 'experts' word that we couldn't possibly find a way to feed ourselves.. a means of getting rid of our wastes.. etc. feeble minded creatures
Another part I loved about Vermi's articles is that.. the ONLY solution these 'experts' offer is - kill your baby.. straight up that's their solution.. & I should note that their solution is
YOU KILL YOUR BABY (AS I WILL MOST DEFINATELY NOT BE KILLING MINE) - I love that.. because you know people that support this kind of thought process.. the Bushs, McCains, Obamas, Clintons, Kennedys, etc. WILL MOST DEFINATELY NOT BE KILLING OFF THIER NEXT GENERATIONS (THEIR DYNASTIC PLAN FOR THEIR FAMILY IS TO CONVINCE YOUR DUMBASS INTO KILLING OFF YOUR BLOODLINE.. GOD JOB BUDDY DO IT)
Now as I can easily prove, (do I really need to copy/paste links for this?) If you continue down the line of history.. I even reference several other examples of this same bullshit.
Yes Hitler did this same thing to his people..
Stalin did the same thing to his..
the Chinese are doing it RIGHT THE FUCK NOW..
& again go back throughout all of history tell me that
The British Empire didn't use this on their subjects..
The Romans didn't do it to their republic..
The Japanese Empire didn't do it to their peoples..
etc. etc. etc.
Its been the same shit for literally 3000+ years & its always been a power play to get at peoples food, water, etc. - You can play to get a nations wealth to control its population.. or you can play to get a nations food, water, PEOPLE, etc. to control its population. Either way its to have control over people. If you cannot see that & you want to believe in some Harvard jackass go ahead bro
Again if you didn't know.. Harvard has been at the heart of WWIII started in 1954 with the rest of their like minded scum that is currently moving the world in the direction their NWO.. these guys have a "DYNASTY PLAN" that may take them 200+ years but they will "take over ze world" - As much as I or anyone else tries to fight it.. the Vermi's & Firaxis's & even the Sonya's that are just too caught up in the day to day to see it coming.. its just not going to be enough & they will 'win'
Quote it - I give most of the world about 5 generations at best before our Families are enslaved by them.. just watch what happens over the next 2-3 generations to Western Europe.. we lost the crusades because we haven't been fighting them but our enemies have.
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Fly, you actually started to make sense a brief moment in that last one. I will chalk it up to getting some sleep. I'm pretty sure you kinda just admitted that I am right. What I have been saying all along is that at some point, whatever that point is, if we continue to multiply at an exponential rate, we WILL hit a critical mass where there are too many of us for the planet to sustain UNLESS we can figure out a way (through technology) to reduce our impact on the planet and consume less resources to balance the scale. That is a mathematical certainty and I was kinda dumbfounded that you were trying to argue otherwise. I never said there was a specific number and I will SORT OF agree with you that trying to calculate that number is a bit of a fruitless effort because trying to predict something that far out when our technology is evolving at such a rapid pace is kind of pointless.
But...then you went all weird and conspiracy again talking about dynastic thinking and how Harvard scientists are the devil. Have you ever met a really REALLY smart person Fly? Like genius level? I have. Generally, those people are literally CONSUMED by their passion for whatever field they choose to go into. To imply that all of the people of this level of intelligence (who are the fathers and mothers of technological innovation) are masterminding some weird web of control in this master plan that carries across generations is just fucking weird. Tin foil hat bro. It's also a logically unsound idea simply because of the whole "best laid plans of mice and men" thing. Sure, you could try this. And you could do your best to indoctrinate your children into carrying through with this plan but at the end of the day your plan is only as good as the people participating in it, aka the weakest link in the chain.
Also, most people in the world are already slaves, to debt. If you have any long term loans at all (mortgage, student loans, etc), you are already a slave, whether you want to admit it or not.
 
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Yes I do have questions (continue avoid my posts though.. its cool & I'll continue to hit yours head on)
What makes the gathering of human's/earth's 'wastes' & turning those 'wastes' into valued resources not economically feasible?
- I mean.. yes I understand that to recycle a plastic water bottle is more expensive than to make a new plastic water bottle.. but that doesn't mean we don't recycle because the economics just don't 'add up'. When it comes to the survival of mankind, this planet, etc.. you can put economics aside.. just like, as all of mankind, if we wanted to provide unlimited energy for mankind we could do it.. just take the economics out of it & it easily happens. Recycling is currently done 'at a loss' but we took the economics out of it because its clearly the 'right thing to do'
What science do you have that makes it so that I cannot make something that already floats.. float?
- The USS GEORGE H.W. BUSH Aircraft carrier weighs in at 100,000 tons.. moves at 30 knots on the water.. & is a self sustaining floating city. Clearly science doesn't make it possible to do such feats & such a thing does not exist.. but for science lets go ahead & do a home experiment. Fill your sink with water.. place an empty plastic bottle on the water.. does it float?
Yeah I know you didn't have the cap on & it sank proving me wrong right? LOL
What makes my concept not socially feasible?
- Are you saying the cleaning up & the care of our oceans not something all mankind should be tackling? Socially hell yes.. but more important; actually physically addressing this issue..
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Mofo Fly]Want some Dynastic Thinking asshole.. here is some on a world wide level
The Moors will have taken over France in just 3 more generations
You guys thought the Crusades ended over 1000 years ago.. BUT THEM DYNASTIC THINKERS.. those waging war against you (without you even knowing you are at war) never stopped fighting the Crusades.
In no more than 3 Generations there will be less actual 'French' (tribal - FRANKS!) living in France than others.. with the primary being the Moors (maybe not by actual raw numbers when compared to the total raw numbers of everyone else.. but they will certainly be the biggest individual ball of people)
You see the French (just like us & others) didn't want to actually do the work themselves so they started bringing in the labor.. & look at who happens to willingly provide this labor force.. the moors.. who will then when they out number their 'masters' will play their 'masters' game against them. They will have taken France as they set out to do.. they will do it 'silently' without blasting off shots & using bombs.. they will have moved into the country & as the primary work force for the country they have the ability to drive it.. into their direction or into the ground if their direction doesn't work out. Meanwhile.. Sonya's of the world go 'oh no way I see it on the map.. its France.. its got French people & the French will always be in control of France'
Yeah & the Romans thought they would be Roman empire forever.. sure the Italians & Italy are still here after the fall of the empire.. but the Italians didn't have anyone systematically waging war against them & certainly they didn't have anyone come up with a 200+ year plan against them.. Those that are willing to wage Jihad on a mother fucker.. yeah they are willing to take 200+ years to get a job done
Spain is on the same coarse.. I would say the Moors will outnumber the Spanish in about the same time & in the same manner that they will have taken France.. several of the other European countries will be much harder to fall.. but those 2 are already being picked a part & will be under Moor control (likely during my time to see it happen & say I told you so)
I can continue but no one wants to touch my stuff.. I'm the crazy one..
Oh do you need me to fact check this for you? Need me to google search & post the demographics for you come to the same logical conclusions as me?
I thought that was half the fun of interweb debates.. more significantly, Islam is doing this at a much faster pace all around the world, most notably in Western Europe. Islam take over The link shows how Islam persons typically acts as a whole depending on what its population densities are in the countries that it inhabits. Very interesting.... They are vying for positions of power so they can influence policy in their favor. This is already happening. They they are doing it, do you not think that others have not and are not currently trying and actually succeeding at accomplishing these same goals. I'm not saying that I believe in the whole NWO shit, but at the same time if someone thought it, someone else probably tried it and succeeded.
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Mofo Fly]Ok Science guy you clearly know your oceans better than I do.. prepare to get fuct & please fact check me.. you bring the sources of knowledge because I'm clearly the crazy guy.. so you prove me the crazy not I prove the crazy.. Just to shut you the fuck down though.. have fun on this fact checking adventure.. you will find everything I am saying is true & you are an absolute asshole for even trying (goes for you too Vermi as I haven't begun to pick you apart yet but your post is coming now that I am done with kid duty)
First, I said nothing of housing humans to the level of blotting out the sun getting to NEEDED parts of our oceans - that would be a completely unintelligent thing to do.. why would someone take the time to cleanup the earths oceans just to ruin earths oceans in their next motion? Are you being combative here just because you don't have anything else?
Now, to stay on that subject because you are clearly in the know.. last I checked superstructures already exist on todays oceans & for the most part no they do not actually destroy ocean life (yes people can still be people & fuck shit up if they want.. humans make their choices). For some examples of super structures already on our oceans.. How about an aircraft carrier? How about a cruise ship? oh I know those don't count because they move... well than how about an oil rig? How about some super structure dock/pier work? etc. etc. etc.
In fact, & this can be proven so please fact check me.. the placement of structures where there previously was none in the ocean actually PROMOTES OCEAN LIFE not destroys it. NEWS FLASH THERE?
Guess you didn't get the memo that we actually like to sink boats & even dump things like old train cars into the ocean.. We do this because we have found that we could take what was once a completely empty part of the ocean & SPARK LIFE TO ACTUALLY HAPPEN THERE BY PROVIDING A PLACE FOR IT TO DO SO. We start where there used to be the empty, sandy bottom of the ocean, & then sink a ship or drop a collection of big ole empty train cars.. Now, this will be a shocker for you.. small life begins to attach itself to these 'wreaks' - this attracts more small life.. which in turn attracts some larger life.. & so on & so on. Where there used to be nothing in this area of the ocean there is now something.. we humans can do that & we need to do more of it
Follow along now.. & don't forget to fact check me; did you know our oceans are more empty of life than they are full of life? Yes that's right.. there's a WHOLE LOT MORE EMPTY SPACE IN OUR OCEANS THAN NOT! Now.. would it be crazy to think that its our jobs as humans, the stewards of our planet, to actually work to fill our oceans? Yeah that's fucking crazy talk & humans couldn't possibly work to promote our environment.. well definitely not here in merica because the merican way is to fuck shit up you know.. lol
So again getting back to that point.. no bro & I CAN FACTUALLY PROVE IT TO YOU - you could take a completely empty part of the ocean.. park an oil rig on it (but ohnoes don't do that its completely evil & bad for the planet.. lol?) - watch what happens to the sea life around the oil rig.. I will give you a hint; WHERE THERE USED TO BE NO LIFE IN THAT AREA OF THE OCEAN THERES ACTUALLY LIFE AROUND THE DAMN EVIL THING.. HOLY SHIT! Could it be because just like we just fact checked a moment ago.. that small life begins grows on the rig's stilts.. & then small fish come to eat the life that's growing on the rig.. & then bigger fish come to eat the smaller fish.. & then sharks come to eat the bigger fish.. & & & & omg I think we actually did something here.............. oh wait fact check that I'm crazy & haven't got a fucking clue what I am talking about
You know what.. fuck that you haven't got a fucking clue
YOU READY TO HAVE YOUR WHOLE SUNLIGHT POINT ACTUALLY BLOWN OUT THE FUCKING WATER? (hey that was punny! & don't forget to fact check)
Do you have any idea how much of our oceans floors actually receive sunlight? Damn.. fact checking mission! There's more of our oceans floors that don't see the sun than does see the sun.. so your "but fly your so stupid your going to blot out the sun with your stupad" is just fucking stupid..
Need a local example you can see, touch, & observe yourself? Well actually go down to the pier at the ocean & watch.. do you really think that big structure blocks out the sun & destroys all sea life under it? Umm no.. last I checked it was actually easier to catch a fish off the pier than it was off the beach.... not sure how you would fact check that.. except maybe talk to someone that actually plays in the ocean.. like a fisherman or something which I am clearly not & haven't a clue (PM me & I will shoot you blue prints to 3 fishing boats I am helping to design with my father for Cabelas & the 2015 season.. opps I forgot I am a derp derp.. don't ask just imagine a clean energy 12 foot bass fishing boat that penetrates no deeper than 6" in the water under full load as an example.)
Seriously though I have to ask though.. Again why would I work to clean up our oceans just to fuck them up after? Again, knowing more of our ocean doesn't get sun than does.. & that there's more empty space in the ocean that needs life than not.. why wouldn't I chose to build my super structures in those locations?
No no no.. let me build a city the size of Vancouver over the great barrier reef & just fuck that all up - that's a great idea that's what we should do....... merica! fuck yeah! You are so narrowly focused you teeny tiny brain.
This next one might blow your mind a bit.. the logic is a fucking reach I know.....
NOW WHY ON EARTH WOULD I WORK TO BUILD CITIES DIRECTLY ON OUR OCEANS WHEN WE HAVENT EVEN FILLED UP OUR LAND MASS YET? OPPS FACT CHECK ME - hint ; google search satellite images of the earth AT NIGHT TIME.. SEE ALL THE EMPTY SPACES WHERE THERE IS NO LIGHTS OF CIVILIZATION? YEAH WE GOT LOTS & LOTS & LOTS MORE LAND ROOM FOR LOTS & LOTS & LOTS MORE OF PEOPLE.. RIGHT HERE ON LAND SO AGAIN WHY GO JACKING UP OUR OCEANS LIKE THAT?
BUT WAIT I'M MERICAN & DO YOU KNOW WHAT I DO WHEN YOU TELL ME I CANNOT DO SOMETHING.. I GIVE YOU MY BIG MERICAN MIDDLE FINGER.. READY FOR THIS? GET OUT YOUR FACT CHECKER~
Don't we have more water than land? No no no that cant be right last I heard world was fucking flat we have to have more land than water. BUT LETS JUST SORT OF PRETEND FOR A MOMENT THAT THERE IS MORE WATER THAN LAND... UMMMMMM ready to fact check this one?
Fuck it I'll just fact check for you to keep it simple
The Los Angeles metropolitan area has a total area of 4,850 square miles
The oceans cover 141,600,000 square miles, or 72% of the earth's surface. (fuck.. & I thought we were just pretending there's more oceans than land).
So there you have your math.. if I wanted to build a city the size of Los Angeles it would take up all of less than a hundredth of a percent of our oceans surface area... which means I could build several MAJOR water cities without DENTING EVEN .1 of the surface area of our oceans. Let alone enough to even matter to the eco system of our oceans.. but thanks for playing dummy. Err.. Please fact check me more. Yes, I wouldn't build my new water city Los Angeles DIRECTLY ON TOP OF important sea life blocking it from the sun fucking it up.. I would pick a spot of the ocean that actually needed life & do it there.
Finally, you didn't ever say I couldn't actually accomplish what I said I could do.. I said I could take our oceans trash & turn it into the ability to make floating structures. That's because if you fact check me.. its not hard for me to make something float.. again see aircraft carriers.. how do they make such large heavy things float? Clearly magic or voodoo because.. yeah I mean I don't have a fucking clue about science so idk.. how does it float? rofl get real
So I can actually make such structures happen.. & I can use said structures to do intelligent things with our oceans.. not just BLOT OUT THE SUN & FUCK UP THE WORLD! Who am I some B level villain.. a fucking Doctor Evil?
Now I said it in the other post.. fucking ask me what I would do with my floating super structures. I didn't say I'm going to build Los Angeles on the water over the great barrier reef to fuck that up.. Anyways, its good to know that I could not only build Los Angeles ON THE WATER, but I could also build SEVERAL of them on the water & still not even hit .1 of our oceans surface area.. but again why would I do that when we don't even use but maybe 30% of our actual landmass. (& that is being VERY VERY VERY GENEROUS TO OUR USE OF LANDMASS.. I'LL CONSIDER A GUY RIDING HIS DIRT BIKE OUT IN THE BOONIES "USING" lol) In other words.. we are still MANY BILLIONS of humans away from ever needing to use our oceans like that - but you could be damn sure if I was there I have the mind to do it.. er no wait fact check Fly's crazy & learned science from watching cartoons
So are you going to actually ask me what I would do with my sea structures? Knowing that I can actually make them.. because well we know I can.. dur fact check.. & knowing that my structures would not be used in a manner to fuck up the earths environment.. because well we know we can do that.. dur fact check.. & after reading this post make you have to wonder -
If Fly is crazy enough to turn the oceans trash into buildings & you cant prove me wrong that I cant.. & he is crazy enough to actually know stuff about the oceans.. you know like how big & empty they really are.. what humans would need to do it make it not so empty.. etc.
Wonder what that crazy fuck would do with the ability to build structures on the ocean like that. You guys know about the big fucking pile of trash in the pacific, it is as big at the state of texas x 2 last I checked.
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Yes. Pretty sure I mentioned it in one of my earlier posts when I was trying to convince Fly that the earth cannot sustain unlimited people due to both resources AND waste management. But, don't worry. Fly has already figured out how to solve this problem. Just read his 17 pages of plans explaining it.
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Sorry Fly, I'm not fact checking any of the stuff you are spewing. I felt I made this clear earlier, but let me explain why.
You will make a grandiose statement and claim you are correct based off the evidence you have. You will present none of this evidence but say something along the lines of "you guys should see the stuff I have."
Someone will call you on it and provide links to articles written on the subject by experts in the field. You will discredit the article because of conspiracy theories that you present no evidence for and label the other person as a silly human for not subscribing to your ego gratification.
This is what academics refer to as stupid. I hear enough of it not to take part in it.
One thing I do want to apologize for, and this is sincere; I've made some cracks on mental illness in this thread. That was off base and uncalled for, especially since I see lots of evidence of it here. I don't know if you have ever been checked out, but in all seriousness, I highly suggest you do.
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One last thing, new drinking game. Whenever you read something along the lines of 'fact check', 'newsflash' or 'dynastic thinking' take a drink.
If you last beyond two posts, you are a fucking titan.
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No.. overpopulation is a false argument used solely to get control over people.
Those that make the argument for it are almost always, always, those 'elitist' - top 5% pc - the guys that got into a Harvard & are better than YOU because of it. etc.
Do you not wonder why its the originators for this argument are ALWAYS at the 'top of the social ladder' ? (& this is at no matter what time frame you put this in.. today right now with china.. to hitler/stalin in the 1940s.. to again the romans using it against their people over 2000 years ago.. etc.)
I mean stop & think about it for a moment Vermi.. I mean you are not an 'originator' for this argument.. you are someone following someone else's lead on the matter because you perceive them as someone that you could follow. You know what.. that's fine & I understand that.. why shouldn't you be able to take another 'obviously' intelligent human being's argument?
Well let me tell you why.. the thing is that you have to stop & really look at people like that man. What is their fucking agenda? Who is paying their bills? Are they at the top of the social ladder & wish to maintain it? Are they trying to get to the top of the social ladder by playing the games with the people at already the top trying to stay at the top? etc. etc. etc.
A fast, easy example for this, outside of our current subject, is just look at your current King of Brit - guy said one thing.. did another.. etc. Some people are true believers of him & while others.. well you get the idea.
So again, just stopping to take a look at your references, every single one of the experts had a different set of numbers, data, etc. to make their argument. Now, that is understandable because a guy from 1970 is going to have a different viewpoint from the guy in 1992 who is going to have a different viewpoint from the girl in 2011 etc. etc. Thing is though, they all have this same message & use whatever facts for their time period they need to make you believe it.
Their message;
'Overpopulation will happen at 'x' number of humans, at around 'x' date in time, & for 'x' reason(s) is why it all will fail'
Followed with;
'The only solution to this problem is to hit the 2.0 fertility rate or the 0.0 reproduction rate' (its the same number just worded differently)
Do you not stop & think to yourself.. How come this bitch from 2011 is telling me I have to kill my babies (you only get 1) but she very likely has several kids? Again, for an example, the Kennedy's are going to support the overpopulation concept & tell you the same thing.. you kill your baby.. but do you think they are going to kill theirs too?
Follow the ball now... they teach their kids dynastic thinking.. you try the best with your 1 kid.. when you are gone & its just your kid vs their 3 kids.. who won?
Now check out the history on this shit man.. its the same thing over & over & over again with no fucking baisis.
Hitler says its the Jew's fault that the Germans are suffering.. have no food, water, money, jobs, etc. & that they should kill the Jews.
Harvard psychopath (extremely intelligent psychopath) says its over populations fault that the people are suffering.. have no food, water, money, jobs, etc. & that they should kill off future generations.
Again, do you not think the Romans didn't use this against their people over 2000 years ago? Hell yes they did.. only it was different numbers/facts for the time - 'we can only support '100000' people in this city' or whatever the figures needed to be to make the argument fit for that time period.
- its all the same.. guys at the 'top' who want to stay at the top making sure that everyone else stays below them.
I think I might be opening your eyes a bit here if you are actually reading.
Just a recap;
Every 'expert' on the subject is a top 5% elitist shit head & wants to stay that way
Every 'expert' makes the same argument but changes the facts & figures around so that it fits his time period
Every 'expert' DOES NOT abide by their 'only solution' to the problem but they certainly want/make you follow it.
This process is repeated over & over & over & over again through out all of man's history.
I can actually show you using todays tech how its all possible.. to feed/shelter everyone, provide unlimited energy, etc. but the bigger/better point is - with how quickly our tech is advancing the solutions to those problems will be available. Take note that currently our tech it advancing faster than we are breeding..
If you want, than I'll send you some of the documentation on WWIII - particularly a copy of the 1979 manifesto done by Harvard, the Illuminati, etc. - 'Secret Weapons for Quiet Wars' ; its the documentation for the 25 year anniversary of the start of WWIII & explains in great detail exactly what they are doing.. using the education systems.. socio/economic programs.. etc. to get control not just here in America but the rest of the world. When you read this stuff from 1979 & see how they explain what they are going to do with things like oil - & then you look back to the Bush presidency years & the things going on with Oil during those times.. you will go OMFG - its right there just one of the DYNASTIC plans written out 30 years ago & executed in the 2000's.
You really have no idea how truly scary the evil geniuses are man.. When you start to read about plans laid out 30-60 years ago & then you turn on the TV to see its actually happening RIGHT NOW BEFORE YOUR VERY EYES.. you just might have to check your shorts for shit.. there will definitely be some pee
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