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Hexen]Throwing more gasoline on these flames, yesterday in Missouri.



Why was that guy so fucking stupid?

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Roby]They just need a couple of these SUV's and all problems solved.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j0eJ0xB7LU#t=133


this is what I need for when the zombies or north koreans come to take over


Don't worry, they aren't good at FPS's!


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Haha Roby, well played!




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http://newsone.com/3048753/caught-on-tap...fic-stop-video/

Another police video surfaces. "I'll put a round in your ass so quick."

Obs/Sonya/Anti camp....How do you justify this?




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Love the pseudo-intellectual libertarians who just roam the interwebs looking for the next best "gotcha" brutality video that usually shows 0 context that stars an irrational person who is trying way too fucking hard to contradict a police officer and sounding incredibly stupid/abrasive in the process. There are thousands of interactions that take place every day that don't involve officers saying, "I'll put a round in your ass so quick."(which I agree with you isn't the optimal way to deal with the public) As Hexen said, I feel like these ultra-violent instances happen very rarely.

You automatically excuse yourself from this conversation when you ask for oversight and accountability for improper police actions and yet write off an officer's suspension as some borderline conspiracy-theory saying that, "he will just be reinstated when this all blows over." You're so obviously pushing some far-right anti-government/anti-police agenda. Lets all remember that you and your cohorts propped up Cliven Bundy as some kind of champion of liberty.

You're using this Ferguson situation(as well as the last video you posted), which is more about racial disparities and inequalties than whatever militarization/NWO/coup d'é·tatplots your agenda is trying to push.

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Originally Posted By: [LoD
plexx]that usually shows 0 context that stars an irrational person who is trying way too fucking hard to contradict a police officer and sounding incredibly stupid/abrasive in the process.


"Sir, I’m recording your ass. What the f*ck you going to do?"

"B**ch, you’re on camera. What the f*cks wrong with you. Stupid ass cracker."

If someone said shit like that to me as I was doing my job I would want to fuck them up as well. I couldn't be a cop. I would be the star of a Rodney King style video. Getting called racial slurs all day, and not being allowed to retaliate in even a verbal way. You just have to take the abuse with a smile, or you become the star of an internet article. Be a cop! Emasculate yourself! Pass.

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plexx]Love the pseudo-intellectual libertarians who just roam the interwebs looking for the next best "gotcha" brutality video that usually shows 0 context that stars an irrational person who is trying way too fucking hard to contradict a police officer and sounding incredibly stupid/abrasive in the process. There are thousands of interactions that take place every day that don't involve officers saying, "I'll put a round in your ass so quick."(which I agree with you isn't the optimal way to deal with the public) As Hexen said, I feel like these ultra-violent instances happen very rarely.

You automatically excuse yourself from this conversation when you ask for oversight and accountability for improper police actions and yet write off an officer's suspension as some borderline conspiracy-theory saying that, "he will just be reinstated when this all blows over." You're so obviously pushing some far-right anti-government/anti-police agenda. Lets all remember that you and your cohorts propped up Cliven Bundy as some kind of champion of liberty.

You're using this Ferguson situation(as well as the last video you posted), which is more about racial disparities and inequalties than whatever militarization/NWO/coup d'é·tatplots your agenda is trying to push.


Hey real nice job Plexx. Let's review.

1. Ad hominem attack, check.
2. Referencing a prior, irrelevant argument as some sort of counterpoint to this one, check.
3. Conspiracy theory reference, check.

You're doing a great job. All you need now it a Hitler reference and a quick, "Nothing you can ever say will convince me" line.

I'm not pushing any agenda. I've been saying for a long time that 1. Militarization of law enforcement in this country has gone way overboard and needs to be toned WAY down, and 2. Law enforcement in general needs to change the way they interact with the public, especially minorities.

I've also said I think that most cops are good cops. However, there are way to many videos of cops abusing their authority and treating people like shit. It needs to stop. Also, threatening someone's life is inexcusable unless you yourself suspect that your own life is in jeopardy. It' not only "not optimal" Plexx, it's a fucking criminal offense. At least it would be if he did that to someone while NOT wearing a badge.

That's really all I'm going to say to you, since you offered up a steaming pile of shit as a response.

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Aww did I ad hom you Vermi? Poor guy. I didn't realize I can't call you a pseudo-intellectual, dumb fuck on the LoD-message boards. What's funny is that you seem to claim that ad homs are egregious offenses in debate and yet you fire them right back. Way to be above the ad homs, Vermi. Stick to your usual red herrings and leave the ad homs to me.

What prior argument? The Cliven Bundy thing? I think it's actually quite relevant to this discussion as solidifies my meany ad hominem and your general delusions about policy/government/law/etc.

Look at your point 2 about law enforcement: "2. Law enforcement in general needs to change the way they interact with the public, especially minorities." - (firstly you aren't fooling anyone into thinking you give a shit about how people treat minorities... just sayin' ad hom). Ranghar specifically responded to your BRUTALITY video saying, "He was promptly suspended indefinitely right after this," and you dismissed it stating that, "Which means, until this blows over and then he'll be right back on duty." How are you not both paranoid and delusional about government/authority? What are you even basing that stance on? A bad cop did something stupid and was punished for it(point 2), and yet you still dismiss it with a farcical response. I haven't taken logic 101 like you apparently have, but I'm pretty sure that doesn't add up. I get the feeling you have a deeper...darker...scarier... observation to make about our nefarious law enforcement and government.

As for point 1, you're scared that robocop is going to take your guns and freedoms, I get it.

Here's all I'll say about your videos. Do cops need to be held accountable for their actions? Absolutely. I support them wearing cameras on their uniforms and criminal prosecutions against them for wrongdoing etcetcetc. Anything to make sure that they're doing their job safely, fairly, and adequately. However, I'm not going to become riled up about these issues due to a short, shaky, cellphone video taken by a person who is clearly irrational with an agenda that I found on the internet on some libertarian website. There is rarely context, and there are rarely facts provided by those videos. You can do what you want. You want to be a internet-liberty champion and post them on the LoD-forums and tell us how fucking mad you are about it? Go ahead. You just sound like a paranoid lunatic sometimes.

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well nothing to see here, vermi just got ker-plex'd.


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"I get the feeling you have a deeper...darker...scarier... observation to make about our nefarious law enforcement and government."

Oh really? Did you consult your crystal ball for that one? Or are you telepathic? Tarot cards? This statement would be funny if it weren't so ignorant and full of sincerity. I don't give half a shit what imaginary additional observations you dream up that I might make Plexx. Save those stupid comments for someone else. That shit will get no play here.

"As for point 1, you're scared that robocop is going to take your guns and freedoms, I get it." Another ignorant shit talk statement with no basis in fact. I've explained in great detail in prior posts why I think the militarization of law enforcement is bad. I'm not even going grace this statement with a further response. If you want to know why I think it's bad, go read. Or don't and sit here and make token sarcastic and biting remarks that I'm sure you think are hilarious ( Sonya is WAY better at it) but mean nothing in the context of what we're talking about right now. I don't really give a damn either way. Your opinion of me matters about as much to me as what 13 year old girls post on their social media pages.

"You want to be a internet-liberty champion and post them on the LoD-forums and tell us how fucking mad you are about it? Go ahead." For the record, I didn't start this thread. But if the topic matters to me, yea, I will post my opinion on it. It relieves my boredom at work. If you don't like it, then don't read my posts. K thx.

Re: the rest of what you said, I actually DO care about how police treat minorities. I'm not a racist and I believe that Americans of every gender and race deserve to enjoy the same freedoms. You can choose to believe that or not. Again, that matters very little to me. I listed WAY more than one video in this thread. The reason these videos are becoming more prevalent is because video cameras are the norm on cell phones now, social media and people becoming aware of WHY they should video tape interactions with police. For every one of these videos you see, there's been many other similar occurrences that didn't get video taped. If you want to dismiss these videos as being invalid because you "don't know the context", fine, go ahead.

Finally, something we can both agree on. Police DO need to be held accountable. And they should ALL have cameras on their uniforms. I knew you'd come around eventually. Accountability for their actions doesn't happen nearly as often as it should and THAT is why I made the comment I did to Rhangar. If you actually care, I can easily link you MULTIPLE articles about instances around the country where innocent, unarmed people were killed by police. In many of these instances, it resulted in millions of tax payer dollars being paid out in civil suits to the families of the victims but magically, didn't result in the criminal conviction or termination of the officer(s) involved.




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