"Everyone in the country in a leadership position, journalism politics, etc, should be evincing a thirst, a hunger, and a passion to try and come up with solutions." "Alright then well with respect, what's your plan?"
*Stutter, silence* "W, we can talk about specific policies in a second"
*One minute later*
"I'm not a policy expert, I'm a journalist, I'm not here to weigh in on particular provisions"